Zsolt Erdei coming to AMERICA!!!!

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  1. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he needs to stay at 175, he was gassing badly down the stretch at cruiser.
     
  2. Darien

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    As a long time Erdei supporter (I wouldn't say fan) and a Hungarian I have to admit that his resume is not that good or as some of you said: padded. But you have to understand something: things go differently over here than in the States. Especially with Universum. Show me an Universum fighter who doesn't have a padded record. You can't. Even Michalczewski who was a big draw in Germany had some very lame fights. Sure he had some good wins but he mostly fought bums. The Klitschkos also left Kohl because he didn't let them fight the best.

    They didn't let their fighters fight outside Germany and they didn't really want to invest money in quality opponents because they could get the almost the same amount of money from the TV channel for every fight. There's no PPV in Germany. Michalczewski and the Klits were big in Germany so it was worth for Kohl to pay some extra cash to some live opponents a few times. Erdei wasn't like that. He wasn't a big draw at all but he could provide a solid 2-3 million viewers/fight so Kohl thought it was better to feed him with some bums than invest more money and not gaining significantly more.

    The other thing is that Universum really had almost slave contract-like deals with fighters. Kohl was the manager and the promoter too. You see the irony here: the guy who's job is to represent your interests when dealing with your promoter IS your promoter...

    I'm not trying to defend Erdei for not stepping up earlier because IMO he should've fought better outside the ring and maybe should've left Kohl way earlier. But I give him credit for at leats trying it now. Better late than never.
     
  3. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    He didn't. And neither did Campillo.

    The reason Erdei ended up fighting at cruiserweight is because the WBO was going to make Erdei (regular champ) and Braehmer (interim champ) fight each other, and Universum didn't want their bigger draw (Braehmer) to lose to the better fighter. So they moved Erdei "up" to cruiserweight so that Braehmer could be gifted the title.
     
  4. Darien

    Darien Active Member Full Member

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    Another thing: I see a little analogy here with the career of Calzaghe. He beat a shot Eubank for the title and fought Reid and maybe Mitchell. At the age of 34 after defending his belt for quite a few times against mediocre guys he stepped up and fought Lacy. Analogy stops here but we all know what happened later: he beat Lacy in an amazing fashion. I still remember how lots of people here thought before the fight that Lacy would **** him and called Calzaghe old, euro trash, paper champ etc. Then after beating B-Hop he suddenly became P4P top 3 and one of the best SMW's of all times.
     
  5. nip102

    nip102 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree its the reason i am happy universum lost its tv deal
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Beating Johnson isnt a major feat and would have done harm to Erdeis resume defending against a 14 losses 2 draws fighter, and is far better off beating the guy that beat that serial step up loser
    You forget future WBA champ Garay
    Former WBA champ Sahnoune
    European champ Ulrich and Barashian.
    Still I gave you a full list earlier, but after you got pwned you started repeating yourself and missing the facts out
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well at the time Fragomeni had only lost to Haye and had a draw with a guy that has split 2 close fights with Cunningham, so Wlodyarck & Cunningham must be just as bad
     
  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its true
    Face these facts. Campillo was a world champ, and Ended up avoiding Erdei. Campillo holds a win over Shumenov, which couldve possibly have been 2 wins, so even if thats not the very best guy, he is still a world rated fighter that backed away.
    Ridiculous comment you make could be applied to any champ with over 10 defences. Campillo would have been a better tougher fight than a 14 losses 2 draws Johnson, and Erdei holds a win over the guy that beat Johnson :smoke.
    Now you STFU :smoke
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I notice you spelt the u s of a in lower case :lol:
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    So when was Johnson a late bloomer :patsch? When losing to Hopkins, Ottke, Vanderpool, Gonzalez, JUDAH, Branco, Woods etc :lol:. Now thats double standards and not knowing the facts :lol:.
    Need I write more :smoke
     
  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Do you have any?
    Pascal beat Dawson and Cloud backed out of fighting Erdei
     
  12. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    You've said Cloud backed out of fighting Erdei a number of times - link or STFU about it already. There was nothing more than discussions, and it wouldn't have even made sense considering Cloud was sitting on a mandatory shot at another title that was about to get vacated.
     
  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    The link was on an old post of someone elses, which I posted on, I was just browsing for it. All the same, ive read it, so can say it without having to prove to anyone. Prove its not true, but you wont be able to because I have read the link, and Cloud backed out of fighting Erdei :smoke, the real LHW champ
     
  14. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Beating Johnson would have harmed Erdei's resume? I'll be interested to see if your arguments can get any worse than this.

    Garay and Sahnoune are average fighters, nothing more. Ulrich and Barashain (really??) Never accomplished enough to be called average.

    Since you have been gettin owned so badly, you have been reduced to arguments like - Erdei beat a guy who beat a guy who fought Lou Del Valle once!

    When you actually have the temerity to bring up names like Barashain and Sahnoune to try and "prove" a guy has a good resume, it's time to give up.
     
  15. lastletter26

    lastletter26 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nice read. That is pretty much what I figured was going on with his career. Thanks for the added insight.