As Johnsonwas called the Black heavyweight Champ when Jeffries a was King

It's likely that Jackson was washed-up.
Pre-fight reports based on reporters viewing workouts are more or less meaningless. "He has regained his old form" is what you hear 80% of the time when an old fighter of repute is about to take a beating.
Jeffries in 1910 for example.

To say the fight was over too quick for Jackson's age and condition to be a factor ignores that punch resistance, timing and reflexes are effected, not just basic wind or stamina.

Still, can't fault Jeffries for the way he took care of business in the fight. But it's a stretch to suggest he beat anything but a shadow of the great Peter Jackson.

 

Pretty much yes, no one knows for sure if the colored champions or heavyweight champions were superior. Was Jeffries better than Johnson/Martin/Childs? Was Dempsey/Willard/Johnson better Langford/Wills? We'll never know

People complain about the alphabet champions and avoidance of fighters but 110years ago it was the exact same situation

 

Judge for yourself. Jackson did not look washed up at all in round one. I will post the training article later. No where does it mention TB during the training or the fight.


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Show me where it says Jackson was dying in 1897:deal

Show me where it says he had TB in 1897:deal

I beleive what I see or read. Here's your chance to change my opinion! I doubt you can, because Jackson was in fine shape for the fight, and no doctor mentions TB.

PS: You certainly have a different way of spelling believe.

 

There's a lot in what you say. Jeffries was,unfortunately,a product of his times,as far as the colour bar went.

 

Thanks for the article link.

We dont really know how Jackson looked in round one, and I certainly don't know who of the writers reporting on the fight were at all familiar with (ie. eyewitnesses of) Peter Jackson in his prime.

All the report shows is that Jackson did well in round one. It says nothing about his performance gauged against himself in his prime.
It merely describes him as having some success in the first round. It also describes how Jackson fell apart quite quickly when Jeffries started to find him in the second and third rounds.

Jackson was a 36 year old fighter coming back from a 6-year absence from elite-level boxing, and a 3-year layoff from an official fight of any description.
Some say he drank real heavy too.

 

In an ideal world yes.. In reality, that just wasn't the way things worked 100 years ago....

 

Well it wouldn't be the last time an old has-been former great has put on an impressive first round in an effort to catch the young guy before he gets caught himself.

I strongly suspect Jackson's punch resistance had been reduced to nil, through inactivity, age and lifestyle. And his reaction speed is bound to have dulled.

 

Weren't newspaper reports leading up to the vitali-briggs fight stating "briggs is going to weigh in at 240lb, he is in great shape"

He then goes an weighs 262lb! :nut

 

Ah, good point, Mendoza!

I ought have said "available to defend against the best in the world."

 

he should be called the White North American champion