Observations from RJJ v Griffin...

Griffin was a very good fighter. I agree with you, in the first fight with RJJ, I had him up by one point if I remember correctly.

I was pissed that he got blown out in the return match though.

 

Montel was a good fighter, always prepared, always came to fight. I always wondered about his promotional/management team, seems like he could've been a bigger name, if he had been handled a little bit more carefully.

 

yep after leaving the great Eddie Futch, Montell wasn't the same fighter.

 

Sometimes in boxing you don't have to be the best boxer in the world, you just have to be the best boxer in the ring that night.

 

Roy was going to knock him out eventually even if he was deducted points. Roy stopped trying to box playing into Griffins game of feinting him and just started throwing power shots. Same reason why he KO'd him in the rematch. He came out throwing left hooks until Griffin couldnt dodge far enough back and got caught.

 

Looking forward to Roy's next fight, huh?


I wonder which faces he will make before the beating starts and what kind of punch-faces he can come up with this time around. Crafty ol' Roy.

also had RJJ up by a point

 

Griffin showed how ineffective Roy Jones was when he had to take the lead in a fight, where by Jones could not sit back and play counter puncher, now the reason I think he had so much trouble leading, is because he did not have a jab to set up his own attacks, he liked to use the opponents aggression, their leads, to set up his offense.

Even when Jones came foward, was aggressive, in other fights, he would generally try and draw leads to counter, he was too cautious of a fighter to get off first, now he got off first against Toney because Toney fought from the center, Griffin drawed him foward, asked him to close the kill zone and drag him out of the corners, of coarse Roy finished Griffin off by taking it to him(rematch), but he also got hit, simply because that was not his game, although I take the point he did get the finish, however you do have to wonder what would of happened had he been fighting someone with a better chin than Griffin, someone who was on the same level as Jones, and could execute the same game plan as Griffin.

 

Thats a great observation and something i have noticed too in the fights he was forced to lead(Griffin 1,Harding) he struggled to get his offense going and he looked far from the unbeatable force some people making him out to be.

 

Exactly, fighters like Jones, Hamed got hit more on the front foot, cause they are strictly counter punches, but counter punchers who lack fundamentals, which is a direct result of not having a jab to set up your attacks, you cant throw power punches and not the set them up with a jab, and not get hit.

When those fighters were at their best was when their offense came from their defense, where by the opponent would take the lead, infact I have seen most of Jones's fight, and they became tedious at times, simply because he refused to lead.

 

I thought Lederman said that?

 

Tarver also forced him to do the same thing in their first fight