Did Ali duck anyone?

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  1. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    I disagree. Norton gave Ali fits because of his jab and obviously Ali's technical flaws in defending himself against the jab were exposed in that fight. But in the past he's faced great jabbers, such as Terrell, and negated his jab comfortably with his movement. Ali was obviously slowed by the time Norton got to him, otherwise I don't think Ali struggles so much with that jab.
     
  2. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    he was joking man.:patsch
     
  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was not just the jab, though. He had problems timing Norton and getting through his guard. Norton had a very awkward style and it gave Ali problems. Ali didn't seem to like (other) unorthodox fighters in general. Bonavena and Frazier are other examples of fighters Ali had difficulty finding his rhytm against.
     
  4. Stevie G

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    Me too.
     
  5. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're certainly right that Ali campaigned hard for a rematch with Joe. Every fight that he had after FOTC,he'd express his wish to get Frazier back in the ring. And yes,Frazier was the one who was reluctant. As you say,after Norton 3,Muhammad tended to opt for those that he saw as easier fights. He knew that the well was virtually dry at that point.
     
  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good
     
  7. Azzer85

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    Ali's the Greatest Simple As, he ducked no one and beat them all
     
  8. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. Even the suggestion is laughable
     
  9. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    That he ducked the Foreman rematch, has been proven beyond reasonable doubt on these pages. :cool:
     
  10. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    as you said, he'd already beaten him, so is forgiven
     
  11. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    It is, that's why it's not common knowledge I suppose, Ali chose his fights carefully after 1976 and wanted to hold on to the title without risking much. But it still happened. What isn't forgivable is the sanctioning bodies not coming down harder and insisting on the fight, when it was they who installed Foreman as mandatory.
     
  12. FastHands(beeb)

    FastHands(beeb) Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali definitely ducked a fourth meeting with Norton.
     
  13. Foreman Hook

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    ****ing-A. :thumbsup

    Ali ducked a rematch with Foreman, cos he Knew he would be KTFO, without his loose-as-a-***** ropes, poisoned-Foreman And v.hot Africa sunshine to help him.

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    I have teh issue in pic above, i remember buying it in Dec 1975 - But my is not signed by Big George.
     
  14. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    or....foreman was a crude thug in zaire and got outboxed by a vastly superior technician.

    and you forgot the curse papa shango put on foreman in the list of excuses:rasta