The Theory of "Modern Training Methods" Being Superior

It would have more merit if modern fighters could fight 20+ rounds and fight with the frequency of old timers.

Boxing is not the same as NFL Football or power lifting. If you are somehow insinuating that modern fighters can beat older fighters because of modern training regimens then you have still to take into account that the guy who breaks the power lifting competition would still get beaten to a pulp by Jack Dempsey inside the ring.

As for the weight classes?

147 in 1920 is still 147 in 2010.

Rocky Marciano over the course of 15 still has a higher punch output per round than most fighters over the course of 12.

 

i dont think the whole...guys runs faster today, means anything for boxing really. Those sprint times have to do with many things that dont relate to boxing. i think the only thing that might matter is heavyweights.....185 pound Maraciano or Dempsey is going to have some issues with Modern heavyweights who are also athletic. But every other weight class would be old timer dominated....

 

Well I wouldn't say dominated but I generally agree....

I just don't see how modern training method can make a modern day fighter superior to older fighters.

It may may them more athletic, but it doesn't mean more effective or better.

 

if you read some of the things james j jeffries could do...one would have to doubt that any modern fighter is more athletic..he did a 6 foot high jump..which may not seem that impressive..but he used the 'old method" (basically just standing and jumping up over it, nothing fancy).

 

well many say Jim Brown was the greatest running back ever, and he played for the Browns in the 50's & 60's. It you watch footage of him today, he is indeed probably still the best.

 

Yes, I've been suggesting "impact exercises" to older women since I was a boy and it's been rejected more times than I can count with the "but it's healthy" addition never changing their minds. :conf I wish more women understood teh science.

 

Your point's well-taken, MF, but how would it improve SRR?

 

Undoubtedly, he would be able to jump further. Imagine if SRR was just as great a boxer, but could jump further. It'd be...I don't know. Something.

 

hahahhaaha.

 

Just to put the record straight:

This article is pretty much where I'm at:

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1) 20+ rounds of 3 or 4 single shot punches a round and some clinching.

2) It would only take 1 round for a Mike Tyson to crush a Jack Dempsey

3) Its a fact of life that methods improve through trial and error, the technique of the modern era is vastly superior and if you cannot see that then you are blind, and it is there to see.

 

Define "modern era". Do you believe the sport of today to be superior to that of, say, the 60's or 70's?

 

This is a bit off-topic, but speaking sports in general, I can sometimes be amazed how recently they've modernized, considering the money involved.

English club football seems to have taken a leap around 1995-2000. Before that the boozing culture was still quite big in England. Roy Keane's biography is really interesting in this regard.

For golf it happened around the same time, with primarily Tiger Woods introducing things like weight lifting. Any sort of fitness regime had previously been non-existant in golf before that time, I think.

Can any of you Yanks tell me about American football, baseball etc? Has there been any clear cut-off point in those sports?