Watched Klitschko Lewis for the first time.

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  1. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thats a pathetic assertion. I had it 5-1 Vitali, although the 5th was close enough to give to Lewis.

    Thing is with that fight we don't know who would win had it continued, but we can only predict who would win the rematch, and I have Vitali KOing Lewis EARLY!:deal
     
  2. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You saw Vitali fight 10 times after Lewis and 30 times before Lewis and the cuts didnt happen. I didnt say the cuts wouldnt happen. I said the chances the cuts would happen again in the rematch and would be this significant to stop the fight again would be unlikely. You said they would most liekely be repeated. Maybe tell me, how many times out of 10 if they fought 10 times would the scenario occur?
     
  3. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Cuts cause NO physical pain at all. NADA!

    They just leak blood into your eyes, and the blood stings abit, while clouding your vision.

    But yeah, no pain associated with a cut.
     
  4. Relentless

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    what the **** are you talking about volkov?

    he just said he just recently got into boxing, what the hell are you trying to ask him?:lol:
     
  5. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Vitali didn't have Lewis to lean on at the end of the 6th round he would have fallen flat on his face. You act as if the fight wasn't recorded or something.
     
  6. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As far as Lewis retiring goes, if he feels like his time was over, then it was. He was smart enough to recognize when he was past his best and get out while the getting was good.
     
  7. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even though Lewis was older, didn't train at all and still did what he did to a younger, in shape Vitali? imho, a motivated and in shape Lewis performs much better and puts Vit on ***** street again, without the rough opening. We'll never know though.
     
  8. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you would have to ask yourself, how many fighters before and after lewis landed as cleanly and as hard on vitali as lewis did that night?

    i'm not going to say lewis would of opened that eye again, but it is a possiblility considering such wounds are prone to open up if not healed enough over time. vitali is lucky that not alot of fighters land cleanly against him, but a fighter of lewis's pedigree is going to land.
     
  9. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Possibility or most likely would happen again? make up your mind

    There is higher probabilty that the cut would not happen in the rematch.
     
  10. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lewis was training for a bigger opponent. It was Vitali who took the fight on 11 days notice. And Lewis was 37, Vitali is 39, and he still looks good!


    6 mos later, Vitali stops him.:rasta
     
  11. Karl Jade

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    Vitali has fought Peter, Gomez, Arreola, Johnson, Sosnowski and Briggs since returning. He has 2 knockdowns against those fighters.

    Lewis, even a 38 year old Lewis, would have destroyed them all within 6 rounds.
     
  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is true.

    Regarding the opening Poster's contention that the same thing would have happened in a rematch, probably not.

    A cut, while not a fluke, is an unusual event and unless we are dealing with a known bleeder (which Vitali is not), one not too likely to feature in a another fight.

    Had Lewis felt it would, he would likely have taken the $20 million and the rematch. But his legacy was (rightly, IMO) more important to him than the $$$, and he believed that the odds were against his repeating the feat.

    There are frequent troll posts on here in both directions.

    Some argue that Vitali was winning and would have stopped Lennox in the next few rounds.

    Not with that eye. He had virtually no chance of overcoming that legitimately inflicted injury, and Vitali would have been stopped shortly afterwards on the same cut.

    Some argue that a shot Lewis easily disposed of prime Klitschko in six.

    He didn't.

    He was close to prime and he struggled with Vitali, trailing on all of the cards. Vitali proved that he belonged in the ring with Lennox, and was of the same general calibre that night.

    Prime for prime, lennox would always have to be favoured here, but not by any ridiculous margin.

    If Rahman and McCall could stop him, Vitali could have too.

    There doesn't seem to be a lot of middle ground on this issue.

    I regard the win as very legitimate and very important to Lewis' resume, as he beat the most formidable fighter of the day in his last fight.

    Vitali is still the most formidable fighter in the game almost eight years later.

    (Wlad is better, no doubt, but head-to-head, Vitali is more of a task to knock off.)

    So with a victory over Vitali on his resume, Lewis solidifies an already stellar career, and retires as champ, having beaten everyone he ever faced.

    Vitali is part of the two headed monster that has dominated the sport for years now, and is at present, one of the two clear best.

    Lennox has a more distinguished position in that he was the best of his era and one of the best ever.
     
  13. Fighting Weight

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    So you're happy to predict the winner in a fight that never happened, but you think it's unfair to predict the winner in a fight that went 6 rounds :huh

    You know exactly who would have won that fight had it continued, and so did the doctor and VITLAYS corner....hence the stoppage/pullout/quittage....whatever you want to call it.

    Lewis TKO6 :smoke:hi:
     
  14. Vanboxingfan

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    I'm not saying it doesn't count, it's just didn't have the intensity of the other rounds.

    But if you want to know what REALLY counts, it's the outcome of the fight. Lewis W TKO in the 6th.

    THAT'S ALL THAT COUNTS.
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The sad truth about this post is that it has to be posted at all. GD you'd swear 1/2 the people on this board never watched a fight in their lives. It's really pathetic to talk about the score cards, over and over and over again, when a fight is stopped on a TKO. Who gives a **** what the scores were.