Have any of you posting this trash ever seen any MMA fights involving top professionals like Couture or Emelianenko? How can you say that these people have no skills or are boring to watch?
boring no, skills...hmmm. couture has a really ugly style it is upright it is open it is easy to see him throw awkward thrown jabs and hooks that hant got the technique nah im not bought on the "ELite have the best technique"
These guys do have skills certainly, but their fights are not only boring, they're FRIGHTFULLY boring. Two guys charge at one another, throw a few punches in earnest, maybe - and then end up rolling around on the ground for what seems like forever. For the life of me, I will never understand why anyone finds that the least bit entertaining. The few times I watched this crap, it literally put me to sleep. I'd rather watch paint dry, frankly.
My brother always calls me to tell me that there is a big fight on and when i do watch it all i see is 2 men fighting on their feet for 20 seconds and then rolling on the ground for the remainder of the fight - **** boring:verysad - he is the dumb one in the family -
The top men may or may not the best street fighters in the world. Street fighters have only the most primitive skills.
I think Jeff Lacy is one of the last people that should comment on stuff like that..hahaha. At this point and time Lacy would probably get beat up by a MMA referee.
I wouldn't really call it savagery. I have never heard of an MMA fatality in the top levels of the sport, and the referees are quick to stop a fight. People are too impressed and/or shocked by the elbows and knees and angry faces to see that MMA is somewhat tame compared to a serious boxing match. I don't think MMA is a fad. It's pretty damn big in Asian countries, and probably will continue to be popular for quite some time. While most MMA fighters were painfully crude in the beginning, the level of skill and conditioning required to succeed in MMA has jumped up markedly. That said, I've never seen an MMA fight with the kind of excitement I experienced watching Hagler-Hearns or Ward-Gatti I.
obviously you have not heard Chuck Liddell speak recently. The guy shows tell tale signs of becoming punch drunk, far worse than any of the top boxers out there right now. He is starting to sound like Tommy Hearns and that is on his good days. On his bad days, just watch his appearance on a morning talk show. The guy was as bad as Ali. Other MMA fighters like Dave Menne, Alan Goes, and Sakuraba have also received brain damage from fighting.
The UFC is only more popular with college frat boys and rednecks. Across the board boxing is still more popular. The numbers do not lie. In 2007, while doing roughly HALF the number of PPV shows, HBO boxing has generated more revenue than the UFC. Also, the live gates for the top boxing cards this year (DLH vs. Mayweather, Mayweather vs. Hatton, Calzaghe vs. Kessler, Cotto vs. Mosley, etc) have FAR surpassed the revenue for the live gates in the UFC. The UFC is a sinking ship, IMO. Overall PPV numbers are down from their peak last year. Overall the ratings for their little reality show are down from previous seasons. Their biggest draw (Liddell) has lost his last two fights. Their second biggest draw (Couture) walked away from the company with their heavyweight belt. Their lightweight champ is suspended for a year because he got caught with roids. Their welterweight title will have been in limbo for about a year by the time it is finally contested for again. Their big name Pride acquisitions have been busts. The fact of the matter is that they have trouble generating stars because all of the guys end up losing to each other. It is nice to have parity, but there is too much inconsistency in their product, which IS the fighters. Mega fights like Mayweather vs. Hatton almost never happen because it is difficult for these guys to even string together 3 or 4 fights without losing.
You do realize that Kickboxers make less than mma fighters, it is significantly less popular, and the real wrestlers hardly get paid at all, maybe a training stipend to cover expenses if they are national competitors and lucky.
So by your standard of juding Couture by his jabs and hooks, we should judge boxers on their lack of world class wrestling ability that Couture has?
why? Boxers aren't required to wrestle. MMA fighters are required to know how to throw hands. Apples and Oranges. Fact of the matter is that as of 2007 there isn't an MMA fighter alive that is as good at MMA as a top boxer is at boxing. Maybe in 5 to 10 years that will change, if young kids actually start specifically training MMA from the time they are 10 until they turn pro. Only then will you be able to say that top MMA fighters are as good as top boxers. Right now you mostly just see guys with one dominant style (which they came from) and the rest of their game is completely mediocre.
Of course boxers are better at boxing right now, simple number dictate that. But there is no requirement for MMA fighters to be top notch boxers, they only need to be the best figheters, by whatever means they are able. To call Randy Couture unskilled because he doesn't box as well as a top notch boxer is equally as stupid as saying a top boxer is unskilled because he isn't a top wrestler.