UFC 121 weigh in: Brock comes in under 265

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  1. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Watch the weigh in at http://uk.ufc.com/news/UFC-121-Weigh-In-Results

    Main Event
    Brock Lesnar (264) vs Cain Velasquez (244)

    PPV
    Martin Kampmann (170) vs Jake Shields (170.5)
    Matt Hamill (203.5) vs Tito Ortiz (206)
    Gabriel Gonzaga (254) vs Brendan Schaub (239)
    Paulo Thiago (170.5) vs Diego Sanchez (170.5)

    SPIKE PRELIMS
    Ryan Jensen (185) vs Court McGee (184.5)
    Tom Lawlor (185) vs Patrick Cote (185)

    PRELIMS
    Daniel Roberts (170) vs Mike Guymon (170)
    Paul Taylor (155) vs Sam Stout (155.5)
    Dongi Yang (186) vs Chris Camozzi (185)
    Gilbert Yvel (249) vs Jon Madsen (254.5)
     
  2. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    How big was Carwin for his fight, anyone know?
     
  3. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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  4. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Heavier than Brock - probably weighed around 275Ibs by fight night. The thing with Brock is he has such huge shoulders and torso that he looks even bigger than he should. So when you saw the staredown at UFC116, Lesnar still looked the bigger.

    I'm surprised Velasquez came in below 250Ibs. I thought he'd have tried to close the size gap a bit.
     
  5. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    If Cain stopped eating burritos, he'd probably be a ripped 230 but like Barrera and so many other Mexicans, they love their food.

    Brock looks in incredible condition. Really cut. He said on the Jim Rome show he was 270. I hope this makes him much fitter and sharper overall. He is so big and strong that he doesn't need that extra 10 pounds. He is better off being even lighter, more agile etc It will help his striking.
     
  6. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    He wouldnt have been able to close it enough by the time Brock put the weight back on, so he's sensible to focus on his speed and conditioning like he's doing
     
  7. Not only that, Brock also no longer cuts weight. The size difference between Overeem, Josh, Fedor to Brock is no longer that much and would no longer be an issue...................the skill and experience difference though would ALL be in favour of the three Strikeforce HW fighters.
     
  8. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Keep drinking the kool aid MonaroCountry. Overeem I can see causing Brock a lot of problems, but given Overeem's mixed fortunes in MMA its not a lock. Fedor is a question of whether he could overcome the size difference, even in Pride he never fought somebody as big and athletic as Brock. Barnett is a joke, hasn't beaten anyone relevant since 2006.

    Of course this is all besides the point, seeing as these three fighters aren't even fighting each other let alone Brock. And I really don't understand why people like you are obsessed with cheerleading these fighters who either clearly focus on another sport as their priority (Overeem), pick and choose their fights to a ridiculous extent (Fedor) or just run their mouth off whilst accepting indie dates because he can't pass a drugs test (Barnett) but insist on disparaging a UFC heavyweight division full of young, powerful, fast, exciting fighters on the up. But each to their own I guess.
     
  9. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    your the last person who should talk about drinking the kool-aid and fighter cheerleading, willcooling:huh

    all you do is speak ill of fighters outside the ufc, hype up unproven guys within it,and agree with everything and anything that comes out of dana whites mouth.:barf

    you lack originality and are incredibly predictable willcooling. you are boring and have no personality, a zuffa zombie is all you are. produce an independent thought if you can, its embarrassing for the rest of us to read your drivel!
     
  10. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice try yaca you.

    I speak ill of fighters who are ridiculously overhyped when their recent records don't justify it. I disagree frequently with White's decisions - off the top of my head; the UFC/WEC split, giving Chael Sonnen an immediate title shot, poor Spike cards and the Penn/Edgar instant rematch are examples that spring to mind.

    Being accused of hyping unproven fighters is laughable when so many people here claim Overeem is the best MMA heavyweight, even though he hasn''t faced a top MMA fighter in several years. Even then I give him due props for potential and looking great in K-1. Lesnar, Dos Santos, Velasquez and Carwin have all faced real opponents and looked extremely impressive in victory.

    The big problem on this board is the small number who have an unhealthy obsession with Fedor. Yes he is probably the greatest fighter of all-time, yes he is certainly the greatest heavyeight of all time and yes he has the tools to still be a leading fighter in the division today but for ****'s sake he is still human. You try to say anything to put Fedor's recent record into perspective or even just say something positive about another heavyweight you get bombared with stats and figures from 2003.

    Too many people on this board are blinded by hatred of UFC. They want so desperately for their to once again be genuine competition in MMA that they pretend that rival promotions are performing on a higher level than they are. FEG has produced awesome K-1 and pretty good Dream cards all year but still faces the threat of bankruptcy and is now reduce to running a skelton schedule. Impact FC put on a perfectly decent run of events in Australia but couldn't make them pay even with international pay per view. Strikeforce lives or dies on the whims of Showtime, is no longer drawing in San Jose and is unable to make new stars or even have its biggest stars fight regularly. BAMMA gets good publicity and television viewing figures on the back of Alex Reid, but British MMA is clearly secondard to the UFC with big names on the UK circuit happily taking pre-lims spots on UFC shows. M-1 Global (which some have tried to claim is huge in Europe) relies on young, cheap fighters and has barely any live audience or television distribution.

    People here are too busy hating on the UFC to see the reality of the business and the sport in 2010
     
  11. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    nice try Will Cooling.....
     
  12. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=147gotbfAoM[/ame]
     
  13. moreorless

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    264 doesnt of course mean that Brock didnt cut some weight, he could just have overdone it a bit which wouldnt be supprizing considering he cut significant amounts in the past.

    If you wanted to be cyinical then you could say that Lesnar's loss in mass is due to him carrying steroid induced muscle mass before the illness, losing it to atrophication and not being able to use steroids to build it back up again in a tested enviroment.
     
  14. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    after he recovered from his illness he would of had plenty of time to use PED's before any sort of testing came around, he is NOT in a tested environment up until a couple of monhs before fight night, even then the tests are easy to pass while taking, i think brocks physique has changed due to him training like a fighter and not a wwe star anymore and its gonna keep changing for another few years
     
  15. cat_funt

    cat_funt Arsehole of the world Full Member

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