The argument that American Heavies are "in other sports"

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  1. Ponysmallhorse

    Ponysmallhorse Small but proud Full Member

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    Easy quesion.
    Germany didn't stop producing aircraft and machinery until 1945. While Gb was running out of resources. It was certain that Britain will fall, thats way thay did not commit full force. British blocked was merely to keep them out while NAzi gang raping USSR.
     
  2. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Georgy Zhukov
    Friedrich Paulus
    German 6th Army


    German 6th army surrounds and pounds Stalingrad. House to house fighting occurs, Germans gain a foothold in the city, Soviets are forced back to the banks of the river Volga. Germans have control of 90% of the city. Soviets launch counter offensive, Operations Uranus, the Soviets attack and destroy the German flanks, and surround the Germans in the city. The Kessel(cauldron) as it is called see the last ditch efforts of the Germans to avoid complete annihilations. Eventually the Soviets achieve total victory, the destruction of the German 6th and capture of Friedrich Paulus first German Field Marshal ever captured in combat.
     
  3. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    Well if any exam paper asks for a one line answer as to the reasons the Allies beat the Axis in WW2 - Andrew671 says the Germans just weren't committed. A+
     
  4. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    The USA would have kept Britain afloat had resources dwindled substantially.


    There was no threat of Britain falling. And the Germans did commit full forces to try and invade Britain.

    Nearly 2,000 German aircraft were destroyed during the battle of Britain. In comparison 900 German aircraft were lost during the battle of Stalingrad.
     
  5. Andrew671

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    Not to mention Britain had no answer to the V2 rocket, and by 1942 germany had operational jet propelled aircraft.
    Had Russia not invaded Germany and taken Berlin, it would've been a matter of time before Germany razed Britain to the ground.
     
  6. elTerrible

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    Boxing is never on TV. People only have heard of Floyd mayweather because he gets on TMZ. People would have no idea who the **** Wladimir is and they still dont other than people that follow Hayden P's life. Hayden P is far more famous in America than Wladimir.

    There were a lot of people still thinking Tyson was champ from probably 1996 until 2008 or whenever he started to get fat.


    Boxing isnt anywhere near as popular as it used to be 50 years ago, gyms are closed down and there is no collegiate boxing so no prospect of scholarships like there are with other sports so parents could give a **** about boxing.
     
  7. Ponysmallhorse

    Ponysmallhorse Small but proud Full Member

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    Overextend their forces. They had no reason to rush. If they did they only would lost more forces that they had to. And than it would be slow staart vs USSR which by that time would have gathered full force and crushed Germany on shear numbers. not even with superior aircraft and machinery it is unrealistic to win against 50 to 1 in man power.
     
  8. MichiganWarrior

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    Meaningless weapon. Compare the damage the V2 rocket did to the damage the Royal Airforce did to Hamburg and Dresden.


    Again meaningless weapon. A couple of Messerschmitts piloted by green pilots and not having enough fuel for significant combat missions is meaningless. Most German aircraft were destroyed before they even got off the ground.



    :lol:
     
  9. Andrew671

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    Pound for pound no contest, Nazis ko round 1 Britain, left hook to the temple.
    Nazis KO round 7 USA, liver shot.
     
  10. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    The V2 rocket was a psych weapon rather than inflicting real damage. Unguided, unable to take evasive action, a poor explosive payload and massive tooling costs versus actual damage. Pissed the Brits right off and really counterproductive.

    Unless you can land troops and hold territory any win is fleeting. Basic tenet of warfare to hold the ground you win. How would Germany have got its troops in numbers across the Channel - in U2 boats or abord V2 rockets?:patsch
     
  11. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Germany already had a slow start in invading Russia. Mostly because of BRitish and Hellenic forces in Greece.

    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_greece[/ame]


    "Hence we will not say that Greeks fight like heroes, but that heroes fight like Greeks".
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  12. Andrew671

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    Messerschmitts made 509 kills during the few years were they were produced in substantial numbers.
     
  13. Andrew671

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    I am confused, aren't Greeks European?
     
  14. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    And the USA had 2.4 million servicemen and over 80,000 aircraft.


    As we like to say in the bayou "Who dat gonna beat dem Americans?" :yep
     
  15. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    Anyway back to sports which the Nazis also lost at.:!: