Margarito straw man...

yup...and thats HIS FAULT..NOBODY ELSES..I CAN JUST AS EASILY COME OUT AND SAY "O WELL MOSLEY WAS DEALING WITH A DIVORCE AND THATS HARD AND COULD EFFECT HIS MENTAL SET IN A FIGHT"..

CMON MAN..SHUT UP WITH THAT $HIT...SHANE MOSLEY BEAT THE **** OUT OF MARGARITO...PERIOD...LMFAO..."TONY WAS FOCUSED ON GETTING IN TROUBLE"...WELL HE SHOULD HAVE LEARNED TO CUT THAT **** OUT OF HIS MIND BEFORE GOING INTO A FIGHT AND PROTECTING HIMSELF AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE RING...

TONY HAD NO ANSWER FOR ANYTHING SHANE WAS DOING......U NOT TALKING TO A BUNCH OF CASUAL FANS WHO DONT FOLLOW THE SPORT AT ALL..I STAY IN A GYM AND I RECOGNIZE SHANE HAS EVERY TOOL NECCESSARY TO BEAT MARGARITO..

HE WOULD KNOCK HIM OUT SOONER IF THEY FOUGHT AGAIN BTW...:deal

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SHHHHHHH...UR OPINION IS WEAK...THIS BACKS WHAT IM SAYIN TOO

 

floyd is somewhat scared. if he is not, then we would see pac-floyd now instead of pac-margarito.

and i never said margarito is awesome nor pac is god. i just said that upset happens in boxing. what is wrong with that comment?

 

It's like I said, no one ****in stands there to take those kind of bombs from Shane Mosley if they can prevent it. marg got his AZZ beat plain and simple.

 

i am actually arguing that if cotto fought the margo that shane fought, cotto could have beaten that margo more easliy sans the possible bricks. margo was not even on his right state of mind that night. he knows that he would be suspended or worst could be filed some criminal case since he was just caught cheating. can you honestly tell me that margarito was not thinking of that **** when he was fighting shane that night?

yes it's well regarded as good/great victory for shane, but circumstance say that margo is not focused at that moment/time.

 

yes they do...mosley upset tony that night as tony was the favorite...i argued with i dont know how many posters on here claiming shane wouldn't win..i said hed take the ud and would do it in dominate fashion...

nothing wrong with what you said...but in my humble opinion tony does not have the style to beat the best fighter in the world today...he is too slow, crosses his feet too much, will be off balance at times when he should be countering, and will use his chin way too much to block punches...

Pacquiao will be able to side step Tony and land stinging shots...Pac might be tired by round 10 but he'll be up on points...

look i recognize how good and how great manny is..i also recognize how overrated margarito is...

PLUS WHEN YOU GET BRUTALLY KNOCKED OUT LIKE SHANE DID TO TONY IT DOES HAVE AN EFFECT ON YOU MENTALLY..ESPECIALLY FIGHTERS LIKE TONY WHO DEPEND ON WILL AND HEART TO WIN A FIGHT..

 

and you also don't take those kind of bombs from Shane if you have the abilities to fight your way out of it.

 

DONT KNOW WHAT HE WAS THINKING..I'm not him..thats all up for speculation..

but to use it in an argument is weak man..it's a weak fact that poorly backs what your saying and is easily picked apart..

the punches that were landing on Margarito were hard and devastating...

u keep looking at Tony and how he was feeling...im talking about shane....THE BEST ANTONIO MARGARITO WOULD NEVER BEAT THAT SHANE MOSLEY..HE HAD TROUBLE WINNING ONE ROUND..

SHANE STUCK TO THE GAME PLAN, "SWAM WITHOUT GETTING WET" AND GOT THE W...

MARGARITO COULDN'T DEAL WITH THE SPEED NOR DID HE KNOW HOW TO GET OUT OF THE WAY OF HARD PUNCHES which he NEVER SAW COMING..

 

possibly his confidence is also low since his weapon was removed. but it's more of a mental thing of being caught that probably cause the lopsided beating that night. i don't discount the vicctory as great for mosley but it's not the same margo that cotto fought judging by margo's confidence and moral that night.

 

exactly..a smart fighter would have figured out what he was technically doing wrong and why he was getting hit...than he would of done something about it..

Tony just kept moving forward like he always does and shane kept popping him and getting out of the way..

Mental state my a$$...guy went up against a guy who was much faster, big in size, much smarter, and got his a$$ whooped..

 

OK WELL THEY WERE ON EVEN LEVELS THAN IF U WANNA GO THERE..

FOR ARGUMENTS SAKE I'll say Shane was not in the right mind set as well..a divorce will do that to you...

just sayin..if u can use that mental argument cuz of the wraps i can do the same cuz shane was going through a divorce during camp...so thats all null and void..next:thumbsup

 

ChampionsFoever basically owned this thread.

 

margarito was not brutally knocked out. it was stopped by the referee. it's more like he could not fight that night anymore but his chin stood-up. shane even need to use his entire body weight to knock-down margo that even shane falls.

and if we think that all fighter that got stopped get's mentally affected after a stoppage, what does it say about fighters like pac, vasquez and duran who shown great mental strength after a stoppage loss?

 

not because I agree but rather because he's talking the most sense.

And the title of this thread really fits because 90% of your arguments are straw man arguments.