Hopkins V Calzaghe : IF Hopkins had gotten the descision?

Please do prey tell when Hopkins prime was.

Personally I think Joe would have dealt with a younger Hopkins easier. The only thing that made the fight close was Bernard trying to con the ref/judges.

 

it would have definitely enhanced hopkins legacy. this isn't like beating pumped up welterweights and shite like johnson, tarver, and pavlik. this would have been a victory way more significant than that, even though hopkins had the weight, venue, and officials stacked in his favour.

 

Maybe Hopkins from inbetween Glen Johnson to Tito fight, somewhere there.

What makes you think it would of been easier? logic would tell you that when Hopkins was active, he was the one landing the clean punches, taking the rounds, putting Joe over.

 

no difference imo.

 

I have to agree, it wasnt close at all. The judge that had Hopkins ahead scored round 11 to Hopkins atsch, clearly a round Joe won, which even the Hopkins nuthuggers agree Hopkins lost. It was a clear Calzaghe win (rightfully) by the other judges.

Anyhow in answer to the question - If Hopkins had of done enough and won that fight, it would have been without a doubt his biggest and best win. But the better man beat him

 

i agree with that theory. if bernard had of been younger and openned up more and traded more it would have worked in calzaghes favour imo. the only thing that made this fight reasonably close was how bitty and stop / start hopkins deliberatly made it to take away calzaghes advantages. clever tactics from hopkins, i'm not his biggest fan but i'd never detract from the fact that hopkins is a clever man.

 

Hopkins is as clever as my right shoelace. which incidentally snapped this morning and I left it in a muddy puddle.


However he has ringsmarts in abundance.

 

How does that assertion stand up to scrutiny? when Hopkins was more active, he won the rounds.

What made it close, was that Joe consistently missed with his punches, where as when Hopkins was active, he landed clean, and knocked him down.

 

I had Hopkins winning the close match by landing the harder crisper shots, and the womanly flailing of arms/hands by Calzaghe were just ineffective, not to mention, ugly as FUK!
I believe Calzaghe's slapping style is what throws his opponents off. They think they are fighting a woman and resist the urge to knock her the fuk out.

 

Joe got put down once in the fight, which can happen to anyone, but lets not pretend he was hurt.
I think Calzaghe would have dealt with a younger version of Hopkins easier also, because at LHW Hopkins was physically stronger and more physical up close, Hopkins was still active, look at his fights with Winky and Pavlik.
This was Hopkins best chance of victory to make Joe fight at a weight he hadnt fought before where he was weaker and hadnt grown into the division. The younger Hopkins would have been coming up in weight against a bigger stronger more active fighter, instead it was Calzaghe coming up to fight a more muscled stronger fighter who had been assisted into building his body into the division

 

Welcome to the joke above . Watch this guy fail to debate boxing and get his facts wrong

 

With respect, does it matter if he was hurt? a KD is a 10/8 round, and just reinforced what I have always felt with Joe, that his defense, at the highest level, is what would stop him beating elite fighters like Jones and Hopkins.

Hopkins has always been strong though, he was a huge MW, look at the size of him against Glen Johnson, huge, he has also started his career at 175, he boiled down! to 160, also, Joe was hardly a small 168lbs, he walks around well over that weight, although I do agree he did not have time to work the weight, looked a bit fleshy, where as Nard looked particularly big.

I cant agree with that my man, he wasn't active imo, infact against Wink he visibly showed signs of tiring in the middle portion of the fight, as for the Pavlik fight, he could of been DQ'd for the amount of holding he was doing late in that fight, also, Pavlik was not throwing much of anything, Hopkins was allowed to fight at a slow pace.


I dont agree with the assertion the weight had a big impact, but im willing to concede it played a part, however when push comes to shove, my own personal view, is that it was more a case of Joe Calzaghe's technical deficiency's in defense, lack of solid technique. Hopkins was able to counter in between his wide loopy, slaps (no offense), when! he was active.

 

He fought his heart out but you have to actually land punches to win.

 

Calzaghe won the fight, end of story. Hopkins has the better resume, but Calzaghe was the superior fighter in my opinion.

If Hopkins won the fight, why did he resort to holding and being a complete *****?