if roy stayed at supermiddle with out going up to heavy weight?

Translation: I've got self loathing issues so I'm going to start a Joe Calzaghe argument on the internet to garner attention and most likely start spanking it like a rabid ****** as the insults fly in my direction.

 

Roy moved up to LHW to avoid the fighters at SMW. At LHW he only had Michalczewski & Erdei to avoid but at SMW there were many fighters who would have beaten him, besides Calzaghe who would have ruined Jones and who Jones avoided there was N Benn, C Eubank & S Collins, who Jones wouldnt go near, even though Collins had some losses to fighters Jones had beaten, but at different stages of their careers which gives the answer to that. Kessler, McClellen and possibly Sven Ottke who had a decorated amateur career beating Erdei and Tarver who had Jones number.

Hope this helps

 

NO!

 

Easy to say, Sad Roy didn't tho. :good
(History repeats itself, Check the various Floyd threads amazing parallels)

& didn't Tarver go 2/3 Vs. Jones?

 

I don't think Roy would have beaten Mcclellan.

 

I have watched Jones Jr. since his robbery @ the OLY.
I stick to my opinion, That had he stayed at 168lbs, That NO he would not still be a champ.

His style ain't for an older fighter like say B-Hop's style.
Jones defo had "pop" early on no doubt, But against those elite 160/168lbs he didn't get in the ring with it's not enough to say he blasts them out, IMO.

 

I think if he had stayed at LHW that he would not have been knocked off the throne for at least a couple more years. I mean, he didn't lose (other than the DQ) until he was what, 35? I think a 32 year old Jones would have smoked Tarver. I know a lot of people don't like crediting the downfall to Jones to his increase then decrease in weight, but after seeing the fights leading up to the Ruiz fight than seeing the Tarver fights, Jones went from being the best to being passed his prime. Not to take credit away from Tarver, but it wasn't the same RJJ. I'm not sure if a majority of people find his decision to move up to HW bold or how many people think he cherry picked once again, but I think taking on that challenge was a bigger challenge than many fighters today attempt to tale.


EDIT: To answer your question though, there's no way a 41 y.o RJJ would be on top.

 

When Jones got off the JoJu Juice he got beat. Badly.

I'd even back that crying little ***** direll to beat RJJ today.

 

:!: Well, Dude is old as **** for boxing... It's not exactly a "stretch" your pick.

 

Joe ruin Roy????? You have to be kidding me, there is no doubt in my mind and in the minds of millions that Roy beats Joe.

 

It is a stretch when you consider direll is a crying cheating little *****.