Understanding The Desperation Of The "7 Days" Complainers vs Pac

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  1. Dom79

    Dom79 Active Member Full Member

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    Like I stated in another thread:

    Pacquiao went from no OST at all, down to 24days, down to 14 days, down to 7days.

    Seems like only 1 fighter here is actually trying to make consessions in order for this fight to happen.

    Random blood/urin tests up until 7days before the fight, and a blood/urine test immediately after the fight. Sounds pretty damn reasonable to me, ESPECIALLY since these are tests that the NSAC arent even asking for. Pac is going above and beyone the typical testing protocol.
     
  2. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    OK, we'll try another one.

    How about everyone in the Mayweather camp denying that any negotiations tooks place, only for HBO's Ross Greenberg to come out and say that they HAD taken place?

    See, everyone is lying. Get over it
     
  3. MrSmall

    MrSmall Member Full Member

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    And the thing is, he wouldn't be on any "muscle building" anyway, very few people who talk about PEDs in sport and espeically boxing know how they would be used.

    Why would a VERY SMALL man fighting in a low weight class want to take drugs to build muscle? He is ripped to **** and has very limited space to grow.

    And drugs don't suddenly build explosive power.

    They will help your recovery with hard workouts, that's it.

    Most top professional athletes are on drugs for most international competitions, boxing is no different. Most drugs take at least 45 days to leave your system, some up to 18 months, so its not like they can take anything and everything.

    The whole thing is insane and based on Hollywood views of anabolic steroids and THEY ARE BAD!!! and they are INSTANT AND MAKE YOU A TANK!!!

    It's ridiculous in this day and age where everyone is an internet expert on everything that there is such a gap between what people think they know and the facts.

    In the Olympics, the lifters for example need to stop taking drugs (those who do) at least 1-3 months prior if they are drugs of any real value. At the time of their Olympics they would be clean, if you are in a tested competition you should be 100% clean at the time of the testing and competition otherwise it is cheating. Using in the offseason, in the buildup to a fight or an event, is neither here nor there.

    But its more socially acceptable to beat your wife up or hit and run guys in their Bentleys, or sniff cocaine off prostitute's tits than it is to take anabolic steroids to improve your training and push yourself even further.
     
  4. Cocteau

    Cocteau Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Post of the decade!
     
  5. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    OK I UNDERSTAND THAT MAN...But explain how what they lied about effected much of anything?

    they stated "no negotiations took place" and were also following an item that said they would not do ANY negotiating through the press........

    so that has nothing to do with agreeing to anything....uuhhhh ur fault:deal

    what they lied about was negotiations and u can argue that they are still following the agreement made THAT NO NEGOTIATIONS WOULD TAKE PLACE IN THE MEDIA AS ARUM DIDNT WANT FLOYD'S BIG MOUTH INVOLVED:thumbsup
    AGAIN..UR POINT NULL..LYING ABOUT AGREEING TO THE TESTS AND LYING ABOUT NEGOTIATIONS TAKING PLACE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS ALL TOGETHER...:deal

    NEXT..STOP TRYING CUZ UR WAY OFF..JUST THE FACT THAT YOUR USING THAT COMPARISON SHOWS U EITHER DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IM SAYING..OR 2, U TRYING TO BRING UP WHAT "THE MAYWEATHERS SAID" IN REBUTTAL WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT KONCZ AND PAC SAID..

    SEE...THERES UR WEAKNESS.U ARGUE WHAT FLOYD SAID..GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT MAN:hat
     
  6. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    WAY OFF....:bart UR LOOKING AT IT FROM A BODY BUILDER VIEW....IT HELPS RE FURBISH AND RE ENERGIZE QUICKER TOO...IT ALSO HELPS IN GAINING "LEAN MUSCLE" AS WELL....

    AGAIN..U WAY OFF WITH YOUR ARGUMENT...THIS IS ABOUT WHAT PAC SAID AND WHAT KONCZ SAID AND HOW THEY HAVE GIVEN CONFLICTING INFO TO THE MEDIA AND PROBABLY DIDN'T REALIZE IT..
     
  7. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    YUP...BUT AT THE SAME TIME FLOYD TOLD PAC AFTER THE MOSLEY FIGHT AND IN MULTIPLE INTERVIEWS PAC WOULD HAVE TO AGREE UP UNTIL THE DAY OF..

    TEAM PAC LIED ABOUT WHAT THEY ACTUALLY AGREED TO, SO THAT THEY WOULD LOOK BETTER...PAC TOLD MICHAEL MARLEY HE AGREED TO ALL THE DEMANDS...CLEARLY HE DIDNT CUZ THE DEMAND UP UNTIL THE DAY OF WAS NEVER AGREED TO:deal:hi:

    IM OUT...DONE OWNING THIS THREAD....KEEP THINKING OF WAYS TO TWIST IT AROUND *******S...
     
  8. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    stopped reading there. You try to come off as someone who has experience with them but apparently you are just like the rest of us. We can all google a few things and post them too....
     
  9. Dom79

    Dom79 Active Member Full Member

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    So Pac has to obey Floyd's new found rules because Floyd said so? So if Floyd were to tell Pac that he could'nt take a **** 3 days before the fight and Pac doesnt agree, does that mean Pac doesnt want the fight? LOL.

    Floyd has done nothing but create obstacles and roadblocks from making this fight happen. Its quite obvious.
     
  10. Totomabs

    Totomabs Sauna Belt Holder Full Member

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    believe me, you're not owning anyone, and everyone(except the *****s of course) is pretty much aware of it. :lol:

    all your rebuttals were very elementary, limited and ridiculously one sided.

    but if that makes you happy, then go on. why waste a good feeling before going to sleep, right? :lol:
     
  11. Lupe

    Lupe Member Full Member

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    Not everything is obvious to a *****...
     
  12. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then you missed where I discussed about my brother, whom I didn't mention I worked with in a nutritional supplement business.

    This isn't Wikipedia journalism here; I know what I'm talking about, primarily from learning it from that brother and persons I know who did use.

    Let me put it this way: Who do you think would know more about heroine usage, a person who spent a lot of time around heroin addicts and who studied the drug or a person who went and looked up heroin one day on Google?

    I could say more, but I think you get the point.
     
  13. PH|LLA

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    someone tell me that the source for Pac saying he agreed to be tested until the day of the fight is someone more credible than Michael Marley.

    and sds before you go on another screaming rant, look at what I posted about Marley in the past. Here is a quote that I posted more than 3 months ago

     
  14. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    seriously I don't understand these haters
     
  15. D50

    D50 Active Member Full Member

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    First of all, if your Caps Lock key is broken, make use of the Shift keys for everyone's sakes.

    Second of all, you're missing the point. Whatever integrity is taken away from the tests is practically trivial. You're basically admitting to this:

    "The important thing is that Pacquiao should accept Floyd's terms exactly."

    It's called Negotiations for a reason. Give and take, not "one person makes a demand, now take it or no fight and you're gay and everyone that likes to watch you fight is gay."