K2 and the contracts offered to various fighters......

What about comments from guys who've already fought them?
There's 12 guys on that list with various issues.

Again I repeat, it's not about what a fighter gets paid, it's about his % of the pot.

Let me put it this way.
Total Pot - $5 million, contender gets $1 million, 20%, probably not an issue.
Total Pot - $10 million, contender gets $1 million, 10%, starting to look a little low.
Total Pot - $20 million, contender gets $1 million, 5% etc

Not only that should the fighter win he still has to fight in Germany for another 2 fights with K2 dictating the terms??? This is fair???

 

thats was the first fight with Byrd. The brothers were not the promoter at that time

funny how chris doesnt mention the 2nd fight...when Chris wanted to fight wlad but DK said no...so Chris asked the brothers for help to get out of the DK contract.... the brothers paid the bill for court and Chris' lawyers. Chris also got 10% of wlads next 3 fights after Wlad beat him in the second fight........ all of these guys say contracts suck because they know they wont win...so they want to try and get as much cash as they can

 

But they were picking up pointers and learning the promotion game weren't they?

So all 12 fighters (including those who DID fight them) that are saying the contracts suck is because they won't win?

What about the promoters/trainers/managers who have been in the business for many years who are saying the same?

 

I am sure Don King, Arum and GoldenBoy offer fair and impartial opinion on K2 business practices. :rofl

 

Not all of those 12 fights were optional defenses and you can't ask for options on a Mandatory fight. Period. That is the whole purpose of having a mandatory. Some of these claims are not adding up. :deal

 

CHEF, quick question: how involved are the brothers in the actual promotion process? My impression of Golden Boy is that the fighters are really just the celebrity faces and the real promotional magic is being performed by guys like Schaefer. Is it the same with K2?

 

Yea, that's dodgy. The purse split is all debatable, and to be fair a lot of their opponents have a far higher opinion of themselves than anyone else does- of course James Toney doesn't deserve a large percentage of the purse. But more than one rematch clause is pretty shocking, and they should cut that **** out. Its not like they need it :bart

 

I read what Chris Bryd said. But i guess you don't read correctly cause i said most of those fighters you mention not name Lewis hasn't done anything great in the heavyweight division. Back in 2000 Bryd was a nobody in which i bet before he fought Vitali he got payed 20,000 per fights. Now the rest of the fighters like Mo, Adamek, Dim, Povetkin? lol come on man seriously. Chisora complain about it but the funny is Warren even said he don't know why Haye refuse to do a 50/50 split with no options lol.

 

and I have to laugh at James Toney complaining about paydays he was never a box office draw and Goosen recently gave an interview where he said the best fight he could get Toney is for 50k right now because the guy has completely let himself go and nobody takes him seriously anymore.

 

the way i see it they are the big swinging dicks in the division and can do what they like untile someone beats them.

if i was seen head and shoulders above everyone else id offer them peanuts as well.

 

Feel free to present evidence of 12 fighters in one division complaining about contracts from King, Arum and Goldenboy over a 10 year period, I doubt you can.:good

 

Okay and what proves this about the Dominance in the ring, does this change the fact that they are ruling the division?

Complaining is one thing, Only your fights will be remembered and not the freaking paperwork.

I wrote a book about it. Check it out folks.

Nobody will ever know the truth about contracts only the one that saw them.

Marry

 

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Are you serious? How many fighters have sued King over the years for his outright criminal contracts? 50? Wow, I can't believe you even posted that.

What about Oscar's GBP contracts that ALWAYS included a rematch clause and he made 20 mil and his opponent made 500k? Were those OK?

You are trying to talk about K2's contracts and you bring up Don ****ing King?

 

So we've replaced one beast with another, a greater one at that!

I keep asking people to produce evidence of King, Arum, etc who have had 12 fighters, (that we know of) from one weight division, over a 10 year period who have complained so much.

People also forget those other promoters had a huge advantage, they had American PPV cash on their side.

How many fighters pulled out of the IBF tournement? 3/4? That's all you need to know the tourney is obviously a crock just ripping off the fighters.

Non mandatory challangers are being under cut or signing unfair options in their original bout AND the 2 that follow. Imagine K2 dictating to you for 18 months of your career, is that really fair?

 

ONE divison, 12 fighters, 10 years. Find the evidence because I'm not interested in just your opinion, facts please.