Is Arthur Abraham Proud of Illegally Injurying Dirrell?

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Thanks for the track record, wasn't quite as aware of it as you.

    Here's the thing I think you're on about that people aren't. They claim it was merely an arm punch. But Dirrell was down with no legs to stand on taking a punch where AA clearly thought and then extended his hips and punched down at Dirrell. I don't see "Just an arm punch" and I see a guy with no ground to stand on. Not only that but I don't think Dirrell sees it so of course that's going to have tremendous affect. Just look at all the factors.
     
  2. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Even if true, not really relevant to the discussion. Some of you AA fans are just as great as deflection and denial as AA is.
     
  3. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Even if Dirrell was acting which is absurd to begin with, Abraham should feel ****ing ashamed and apologetic about throwing the punch in the first place. Teeing off on a defenseless person like that is unnacceptable, and can easily kill someone. An unexpected punch like that is more likely to cause damage than any other, even if it isnt thrown with the same killer intent. If you can't anticipate a blow like that, you can't absorb the impact, physically or mentally. It's much easier to knock someone out in such a situation and really **** their **** up.
     
  4. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know King Arthur continues to think Dirrell was faking it, but what exactly did he say which showed pride in what he did?

    I think Froch is just talking out of his ass.
     
  5. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    I honestly don't think Abraham was a 100% aware of Dirrell being on his knees, completely defenceless and that the action was to be stopped.

    The dude was in his seek-and-destroy mode, and was desperately going for that knockout. We all know there's delayed a reaction between your mind making a decision, and your body processing the instructions to execute the planned action.

    That's what happened with Abraham. When he made that decision to throw the punch, Dirrell was in a legit position to hit. But unfortunately for him, the punch followed through a second too late.
     
  6. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    This. I don't remember Cotto going to hit Foreman with the intention to hurt him or just to hit him in frustration when Foreman fell over.
     
  7. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Different scenarios, dude.

    Cotto wasn't desperately going for the kill against a slippery opponent in survival mode, who was running and falling at every chance.
     
  8. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    I agree that he might not have been completely cognizant. In a bout people can be out on their feet or not be in control of their own actions. It's just a result of our own biology taking over, kill or be killed. But his actions after the fact, and how he talks about it, like it was a conscious decision he made, and how he stopped before throwing the punch make me think that he should be apologetic about it at the very least. He's shown himself to be a **** loser despite committing a very harmful foul and that's not good any way you slice it.

    Very different situation dude, not really a good comparison.
     
  9. pavlikfan

    pavlikfan Active Member Full Member

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    Born in Armenia, Trained in Germany. Those Krauts have a complex view of right and wrong. I'm glad Abraham was at least exposed as a completely 1-dimensional thug who will be outclassed by the best in the division.
     
  10. The-Beast

    The-Beast Free Boo Radley Full Member

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    I saw an extremely frustrated fighter who barely won a single round. Very early in the fight Abraham got mad as a hornet when his corner tried to apply the enswell. His body language, his facial expressions, everything about him screamed "I AM FRUSTRATED, AND I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO!!" Frustration will do funny things to a fghter. (How many times have we seen Rubio sit down on his stool and cry like a baby?)

    The foul was born of frustration. A fighter who was completely off his nut saw a shot, and took it. That, in and of itself, is forgivable.

    The stuff that happened afterward is not forgivable. Abraham and his team should be very repentant. They should be as shook-up as Delvin Rodrigez was when he put that kid in a coma. They are not shook-up at all. They continue to act as if Dirrell was at fault, and that is despicable.
     
  11. Tyler-Durden

    Tyler-Durden Boxing Junkie banned

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    STFU you racist ****. Anyway every Pavlik's fan are hating AA because they know he's way stronger than their alcoholic ***. :patsch
     
  12. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And there it is.:yep

    How ****ing predictable.

    well to be honest...

    If Dirrel really is injured and injured by AA Foul then AA should really be ashamed..
    If AA really does know what he did and what did he cause by it and still is proud he is ****ing ****...
    I will still root for AA because somewhy i like him at the Ring.
     
  13. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Abraham is in an interesting position because he gets criticised for saying Dirrell acted but there's only two people who know how hard the shot was. One is saying it was a knockout blow, the other is saying it wasn't a big punch.

    Actually looking at it, I tend to believe Abraham. He was in a position where he couldn't throw a big punch - People say he is a KO artist but he had no leverage behind the punch so no matter how hard he does hit a standing opponent, it's such a different scenario, his punching reputation is besides the point. His back is straight, he doesn't turn his body into the punch and he doesn't throw it from his feet. If it was a true knockout, it's very unusual considering Abraham's weak position. You just can't generate serious power standing like he did.

    Just to make a comparison, people say David Haye has a glass chin and Barrett is a good puncher, yet Haye was hit with a similar shot and it didn't effect him too much. He never lost his sense or was close to being seriously hurt. There are plenty of fighters who got hit with better shots than Dirrell took, who didn't get knocked out.

    Obviously you have to judge it individually though and any comparison could be a million miles off or it could be exactly right. We just don't know.

    The only two people who do know have two different opinions, so it's unlikely we will ever know for sure.
     
  14. The-Beast

    The-Beast Free Boo Radley Full Member

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    "I wanted only for the KO." (Arthur Abraham, post-fight interview.)
     
  15. Tyler-Durden

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    What does it explain ?