Would Mayweather Be Greater Had He Fought Cotto Or Pacquiao...and Lost?

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  1. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think that he would be, given that it was a competitive fight. Yeah its great to have an undefeated record and all, but its not so great to lack a career defining fight on your record. That is what Roy Jones and Calzaghe have been most criticized for, and will continue to be in the history books. Leonard had Hearns, Duran had Leonard, Ali had Frazier and Foreman, and so on. Mayweather has beaten a lot of good fighters, some great (at less than great times in their careers). He deserves credit for his accomplishments. But, the way I see it, just getting in the ring with another superstar who the boxing world believes actually has a solid chance at beating you, is an accomplishment in itself. Maybe the most honorable one.
     
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  2. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    NO.

    HE would have been greater if he fought them and won!:deal
     
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  3. Andy McNab

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    All fighters that face the best lose. It does not harm legacy it only increases it.
     
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  4. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    If Floyd lost to Cotto, he would not be great, because Cotto is just a mediocre fighter who got chased around the ring by Ndou and Clottey.
     
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  5. Boxed Ears

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    Being a four-time world champion in three weight classes, winning 15 or 16 world title fights and defeating more than ten other world champions makes him...what, like, the most successful mediocre fighter of all time?
     
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  6. Andy McNab

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    Yeah but that mediocre fighter has a far better resume at welter. Now what do you say to that? I already guess you are biased as can be with that post.
     
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  7. zangetsu

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    if pbf will not fight the best, his legacy will always be criticized for the years to come.
     
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  8. MichiganWarrior

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    He won 3 vacated titles. The one champ he did beat was a one legged Yuri Foreman.
     
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  9. MichiganWarrior

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    Cotto

    Mosley
    Judah
    Clottey(Gift)


    Mayweather

    Judah
    Baldomir
    Hatton
    Mosley

    Yeah im pretty sure Mayweather has the better resume. But Cotto has bled far more at the weight then Mayweather if that means anything.
     
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  10. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I kind of agree that most great fighters have lost, not because they arent great, but because if you consistently fight the best available you will eventually lose. Thats why Cotto has lost. Thats why Pacquiao has lost. Shane, Oscar, those guys always challenged themselves.
     
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  11. Boxed Ears

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    Did you have a point there?
     
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  12. SuspiciousChees

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    If you add Hatton to FMJ's welter resume, why not add Marquez.
     
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  13. Andy McNab

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    Cotto beat Shane and stopped Judah. Hatton was a JWW who was stopped in 2 by Pac and Baldomir just ain't a ****ing talking point.
     
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  14. Andy McNab

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    He would look even more stupid if he did that!
     
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  15. Andy McNab

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    Yeah he does, snipers shot foremans leg out.
     
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