Is it unfair to strikers that they can't kick when the opponent is on the ground?

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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  2. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, which is why in Pride strikers ruled.
     
  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    It must be frustrating for a guy who likes to fight on his feet to see his opponent go down and know he can't beat the **** out of him.
     
  4. GOW7

    GOW7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If youre talking about mma to me it's stupid you can kick and punch a man when theyre on their back but you can't when theyre on a knee. If you can defend yourself from your back you should be able to defend yourself from being on a knee.
     
  5. PH|LLA

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    I didn't know they're allowed to do it when they're on their back
     
  6. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can only kick their legs, you also can't elbow them straight down if you're on your back
     
  7. truewarrior

    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anyone see Brock get his ass beat? That **** was off the hook, anyways I had to watch it cause boxing has been sucking ass lately.
     
  8. GOW7

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    I thought I've seen a couple of fighters get high kicked over top while on their backs. I could be mistaken.
     
  9. Ne5ville14

    Ne5ville14 Rationalist by default... Full Member

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    Yes it suck, they should be allowed knee too, especially from side mount or north/south position :D:D:D
     
  10. moreorless

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    lesnar's last two fights are IMHO a great example of why soccer kicks and stomps are needed.

    When fighters are limated to GnP alone its possible to tutle up in a silly and totally unrealistic fashion and survive.
     
  11. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    They did. It was called PRIDE. Remember what Coleman did to Allan Goes?
     
  12. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    UFC wont ever allow that. It would get them banned nationally.
     
  13. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    It is unfair for strikers but it is unfair for grapplers to be stood up. There are points that work both ways.

    Unfortunately for the strikers, every offensive technique they do can be fight finishing so not being able to knee or kick a downed opponent is stopping them from closing the show.
     
  14. moreorless

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    Peeople have alot of bad images of stomps, soccer kicks and knees but really most of them where early in the transition in Pride or involve lower level fighters. Goes and Saku at Pride 13 clearly didnt consider the danger of knees when in the north south position and stuck around in them way too long. Most of what we saw after that was just a product of Japanese ref's always letting matches go longer and wouldnt be the case in the US, Overeem/Sergei 1 for example would have been stopped much quicker.

    Personally I think the sport often looks uglier without them, consider a match like Arona/Soko for example. Arona gets knocked down and Soko springs on him with soccer kicks with leads to the ref stepping in before much damage is done because its clear Arona's about to get the **** kicked out of him. In the US though Soko would have to follow up with GnP and most likely deliver either some nasty shots or a sustained assults to end it.

    In reality most of these moves arent actually that effective if an opponant knows how to deal with them, ultimately there main purpose is to fininish people quickly(and its up to the ref how quickly) and to counter unrealistic tactics. With these rules wrestlers hanging onto legs, guys buttscooting and fighters doing nothing to escape side control would be a thing of the past.
     
  15. Ne5ville14

    Ne5ville14 Rationalist by default... Full Member

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    I remember don't worry, that' why I said that...it was the good time !:)