David Lemieux vs. Hector Camacho Jr. RBR here! (top of page 12)

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  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Hell no....

    Ouma is officially 2-5 in his last seven fights, and the fact that he did good against Vanes (a JR Middle) is equaled in that he was also beat by ROSADO of all people.... freaking rosado! I like rosado, and hes a solid fighter on a regional level but hes just that, a regional fighter, at the jr middle level.

    Ouma should NOT be put in the position to be fighting an undefeated, powerful, powerful, middleweight..... one in which has OBVIOUS world class potential.


    More then that, its completely disregarding the fact that Ouma, who is in no shape to be taking on top level fighters until he shows hes still capable of competing with them healthily on a regular basis, shouldnt be thrown in there with some middleweight power puncher when all ouma does is walk forward eating punches trying to overwelm you. Its a disservice to Ouma for the sake of NOTHING.... because that win, would mean nothing.

    So why in the hell put Ouma in the position to get his head completely leveled for a bull**** win? and it would be just that.... a bull**** win. Ouma shouldnt even be AT middleweight, and even if one wants to put aside the fact that he shouldnt even be competing at middleweight, made obvious by all his other fights (and the fact that when hes coming in in shape he weighs about 150-153) so regardless of weight, hasnt won two fights in a row since 2006, and isnt a top 10 fighter in ANY weightclass.

    Has not won two fights in a row...... since 2006.

    At some point you have to put the health of a fighter above some bull**** fight.


    Ouma should continue fighting the level of guys hes fighting and if he shows hes above that level on a constant basis at this stage of his career, then get the bigger fights against guys his own size in his own weightclass.

    You dont put a small guy who walks into punches all fight, with little power, and who is 2-5 in his last 7, not having won back to back fights going on his 5th year whos shouldnt even be at the weightclass the fight will be at and put him in with a young undefeated KO artist like David. Its complete disservice to Ouma and irresponsibility for his health at this stage of his carreer.... the man has eaten too many punches as it is, and to put him in this position, a no win fight against a much bigger man with legit knockout power when Ouma is past his best?

    Its a bull**** fight and if Oumas people have any love and respect for him at all they would decline this fight..... and the very thought of this fight is absurd.

    And deeming this fight as a good one, regardless of the reason is just being oblivious to reality, or deeming a completely obvious and utter mismatch as worthy for the sake of some bizarre reason. Everyone knows for a fact this fight would be a one sided beatdown, but nobody cares.
     
  2. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was speaking on behalf of the Lemieux team and their problem to find someone that will want to fight him on such a short term basis. The high risk / low reward is heavily kicking in.

    In Ouma's case, I agree it's better for him not to be fighting Lemieux at 160lbs.

    It just comes down to making a fight with guys that want to step in the ring with Lemieux within 5 weeks, never mind trying to make a compelling fight in such a short period of time.

    Maybe it's unfortunate from a logical point of view, but Ouma seems to agree, which no one else seems to be doing at the moment...
     
  3. kirk

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    Freaking Ouma, dont take this fight.....

    I think sometimes this warrior is too tough and has too much heart and balls sometimes.

    I hope his manager sees this fight for what it is and declines it.... they can continue to make decent enough money against lower level guys, Ouma doesnt need to be facing any more big power punchers at weights he shouldnt be at. Hes taken enough punishment as it is.

    I do not want to see Ouma stopped... :-(
     
  4. kirk

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    Ya man I am just trying to look at the bigger picture here, and heavily from Oumas P.O.V. I know I am making a big deal outta this but I have a lot of love for Ouma (no homo) and this would just break my heart to see his team feed him to the wolves like this instead of having him build up the right way back into contention.... I couldnt watch Ouma get KO'd, no way.
     
  5. Speedtron

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    David is the man. A great puncher. He has power in both hands similar to Arthur Abraham.
    He has technique and speed. There isn't any bad thing to say about him.

    War Lemieux!!!
     
  6. lefthook

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iihat08T0Vw[/ame]
     
  7. MamaSupra

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    I see the similarities with Abraham a notch quicker in reflexes though. Great observation.
     
  8. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shame it ended like that for Camacho. I was a big fan when he first came on the scene. I thought Lemieux showed poor sportsmenship by dancing when he first hurt Camacho and then all of the laughing after Camacho was out. He could have at least showed some compassion and gone to his corner to see if he was okay. Camacho has no business at 160. He should be at least 147, but it's possible his career is over. Not trying to be a hater, but Lemieux will end up facing the same fate when he moves up in competition. I know most will see Camacho talks and shows off too much, but that is prior to the fight and that is his motto. There is another Camacho coming up soon and I hope he is discipline on keeping his weight and fights more like his father. I don't know his name, but he is still in the amtuers.
     
  9. magatte

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    Borincano - Camacho Jr was dancing all during the weigh-in. And was dancing all through the walk to the ring. It was just payback, as in to say "who's dancing now".
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yeah, Camacho was a smug SOB until the smugness was knocked out of him.

    He was looking through Lemieux as a tune-up for Fernando Vargas. :!:



    I **** you not, Camacho's been calling out the retired and bloated Feroz for a while. :yep
     
  11. kirk

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    Yep.... they have had words, there is a video of those two jawing at eachother.

    They still could fight, not that I want to see Feroz back in the ring but it would be a relatively safe payday..... and he could use the money I'm sure. If I thought JR could beat him I would hate the idea but I actually think Feroz could beat him even at this stage.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    The only foreseeable problem is the weight, kirk.

    Camacho isn't going to allow Vargas to weigh in the 170s or 180s.

    Obviously from the Mayorga fight we know Vargas can no longer even get down to middleweight without difficulty even with a full camp and some motivation (and wears the extra pounds sluggishly).

    Any weight that Jr. would agree to might leave Fernando too drained to compete (like DLH trying to force welterweight on his own body after seven years, with disastrous results).

    Of course, one good solid punch from Vargas could probably put the loudmouth to sleep again no matter the weight - especially with all the cracks Lemieux has probably left in the china.
     
  13. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't blame you for getting worked up about it man, it's not easy to see a fighter you're a fan of get lined up for a fight where he may as well have "Everlast" tattooed on his chest because he's brought in as a punching bag. There's a good chance Ouma gets genuinely hurt against Lemieux, and I'd rather not see that, either.
     
  14. Swarmer

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    Holy ****, David Lemieux proves to be the ****ing man once again.
     
  15. StreetsofRAGE

    StreetsofRAGE Ballin Full Member

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    Wow devastating KO. He was out cold on his feet.