Are Catholic boxers born in Belfast considered Irish/Northern Irish

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by lukevader, Oct 28, 2010.


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  1. SILVIO_DANTE

    SILVIO_DANTE Active Member Full Member

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    the facts are clear in my mind

    to answer the question in your title, catholic boxers from belfast would identify themselves as irish, and support the republic of ireland football team (and not the northern ireland team)

    inb4 somebody gives an obscure eample where this isn't the case
     
    SILVIO_DANTE, Oct 30, 2010
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  2. lukevader

    lukevader Guest

    youre a good man sylvio ...but youre just not a war time consigliere
     
    lukevader, Oct 30, 2010
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  3. leo_messi

    leo_messi Guest

    Thank you, good reply...
     
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  4. leo_messi

    leo_messi Guest

    In general I have to agree...

    I really dont wanna get into this ****, but its genuinely close to my heart in many ways....

    Just to Fra: I've had many wise men talk to me in my life from all denomonations of life, and the best bit of advice has been to enjoy your short time on this world and take each day as it comes. My advice to you is to get a ****ing life and dont worry about other peoples politial/religous or personal beliefs...It doesn't make a ****ind difference in the grand scheme of things you ******ed hateful ****....

    Genuinely, Michael Collins would be turning in his grave to think that this country has produced idiots like you on the back of his struggles.....




    This thread is a farce and i'm ashamed to have contributed but there is sometimes that i cant bite my tongue,....
     
    leo_messi, Oct 30, 2010
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  5. leo_messi

    leo_messi Guest

    you cant say that for sure...

    That is seriously narrow minded.

    Not having a go, but think about what you are saying. Most young adults dont go to church on a sunday or pray on a weekly basis. What sort of ardent catholics are they/protestants are they?(and for my money, who really cares.../Note:I'm not being anti-religion, i'm somehwat religious myself)

    The struggles in the north were not/are not a religious struggle, it was/is a social/nationalistic struggle. Always has been always will be....

    People need to realise that for the majority of cases, this social issue is not a factor any more. The only issueis nationality, and even then people in the north are free to call themselves whatever they ****ing like...Anyway, we all are part of a bigger european union, so what ****ing difference does it make??..

    Michael Collins/ James Connoly and Padraig Pearse would, in my opinion, support this view if they were alive today. They are not dickheads. They were very clever men, and still remain hero's to me for very many reasons...


    ****ing Fra

    Lighten up mate, you only have one life.....
     
    leo_messi, Oct 30, 2010
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  6. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    Either wraps this **** up guys or take this unseemly mess to the Lounge were it would be more suited.

    Unless you have something to say about boxing, please do not post after this thread.

    :good
     
    slapbangwhallop, Oct 31, 2010
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  7. lukevader

    lukevader Guest

    end thread/ as far as im concerned
     
    lukevader, Oct 31, 2010
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  8. SILVIO_DANTE

    SILVIO_DANTE Active Member Full Member

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    Edit, just seen what slapbangwhallop said and I agree

    @ Leo_Messi I know and agree with everything you said and would be happy to discuss it another topic, but it doesn't answer the op's (pretty silly) question. I also hate it when people say the Troubles was a religious conflict, but you're making the issue more complicated than it needs to be in this case
     
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  9. alba

    alba Guess who? Full Member

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    would a scottish born boxer who had an irish uncle ,be classed as irish ?
     
    alba, Oct 31, 2010
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  10. Right Hook

    Right Hook Guest


    LOL no, well, not unless he had Irish parents or grandparents
     
    Right Hook, Oct 31, 2010
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  11. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    'Would' is the wrong question, 'Can' is more appropriate. Yes, is the answer.

    If he has an Irish uncle surely he has an Irish parent, and maybe Irish grandparents.

    Therefore he is entitled to an Irish passport.

    More importantly - do they consider themselves Irish.

    Its not a simply question.
     
    slapbangwhallop, Oct 31, 2010
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  12. alba

    alba Guess who? Full Member

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    well the irish uncle is his mothers, sisters husband,but his mother and her sister are scottish .so the sister married the irishman ,so how does that work ?:D
     
    alba, Oct 31, 2010
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  13. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    Why didnt you say his "Uncle-in-Law"

    In that case - no.
     
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  14. Squareman

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  15. alba

    alba Guess who? Full Member

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    apolagies like an sfa employee i might have ommited that .:D
     
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