Amir Khan Vs Marcos Maidana Build Up Thread!

None of the fighters will be moving up to welter apart from ortiz within the next year and if they do it wont be because of weight problems.

it will be because they lose a fight and see 147 as open ground.

 

Knocking out all but 3 of his opponents, as well as stopping Ortiz and undefeated Victor Cayo suggests otherwise. What suggests that he isn't a hard puncher? You can't base it all on the Corley fight.

 

Khan is a Glass Jawed Joke.

 

If Khan fought Mayweather it most certaintly wouldn't be in the UK

 

no he isnt struggling that we know of, but he has a big frame, and i am expecting he would already be comfortable at 147.

im not saying he drains himself or anything daft like that, i just dont expect him to be at 140 for much longer

 

i base it on his career as a whole. when was the last time he actually knocked someone out cold?

afterall he is a monster puncher right? wrong. he isnt feather fisted, but he aint a huge puncher either.

trust me, he will not knock khan out and he wont even trouble him.

power is measured against the quality of those you face. his best 3 opponents are ortiz, kotelnik and a shot to death corley. all 3 finished on their feet. all 3 took flush shots without being knocked out.

maidana is a myth about to be exposed.

 

ye i was meant to put huge, not hard.

 

I predict Khan to get caught in the early rounds (1-3) but surprise everyone by getting up and dominating Maidana for a TKO around round 10, after a shaky start.

 

He knocked Ortiz, a fighter with a quality chin, down twice and was very close to finishing him off before he quit. He performed very poorly against Corley (no rhyme intended) and fought without a gameplan, but still knocked him down in that fight. Kotelnik has an iron chin, I doubt he will ever be knocked out. Victor Cayo and Victor Ortiz had not even been close to being knocked out before Maidana got his hands on them. He should have knocked out Corley, but not knocking out Kotelnik is nothing to be ashamed of. And even if he is not a huge puncher, who at 140 hits harder than him? I doubt Alexander or Urango would even come close to knocking Ortiz out.

 

need to split ya post up a bit, so i did it for ya.

the first bit, as i said, power should be measured on quality. he hasnt knocked out anyone of any quality. performing poorly against a guy who had been decapitated a couple of fights back is not good enough. not for a monster puncher. someone with his reputation should have atleast one A-level kayo victim, and he doesnt. ortiz quit, he wasnt deemed unfit to continue. corley finished the stronger vs maidana, didnt look like someone who had just been 12 rounds with a monster. and kotelnik took maidana's shots all night. someone with that reputation should take someone out with that many shots.

for the second bit. i rate ortiz, judah and urango as harder punchers. but for knocking out ortiz, maidana was the perfect style. he didnt like the pressure, that night i think urango knocks him out also. but judah wouldnt have done.

khans handspeed more than compensates for maidana's power. if anyone is getting hurt it is maidana.

 

Pretty much this, Khan's gonna be bouncing combos off Maidana's head with relative ease by the 9th imo.

 

Do you really think if Ortiz had continued, he would not have been knocked out by Maidana? He was badly hurt, had been knocked down and the swelling on his face was massive, as well as the fact that Maidana was hitting him with every right hand he threw.

I understand why you are raising question marks about the Corley and Kotelnik fights, heres my analysis;

Corley: There is no excuse for not knocking Corley out, but Maidana was fighting without a gamplan, and Corley's style was neutralising Maidana's power. If Marcos had fought less nervously and tried to box his way in instead of swinging without precision, I think he would have knocked Corley out.

Kotelnik: Believe me when I say NOBODY at 14o pounds has a chance of knocking out Kotelnik, he has one of the best chins in the game. Urango, Judah, whoever. None of them even hurt Kotelnik if he fights them. You can't expect Maidana to knock out Kotelnik.

The main reason I believe Maidana is a very big puncher, is because he does not have particualrly good fundamental skills. He is slow on his feet, has quite slow hands, does not jab much or box his way in, does not throw a variety of combinations. Maidana wins because he comes out swinging, and when he lands his big punches, they hurt his opponents. He hasn't won his 20-odd fights on boxing skills or speed, or wearing down his opponents. He has won his fights by using his power to knock them out.

Victor Cayo was not stopped on his feet, he was stopped after taking a huge body shot. Cayo was outboxing Maidana in that fight, until Maidana's power showed through and he was able to knock his opponent out with hard punches. One big solid shot to the stomach and Cayo was out. That is power.

 

I had a bizarre dream the other night. First time I can recall a dream involving boxing.

Khan and Maidana were in the ring and Marcos threw a looping right hook that barely grazed Amir's chin, promptly flattening him. Amir went down in comical fashion--perfectly flat with arms by his sides. At about the count of four, Amir's torso popped upright and then he proceeded to try and regain his feet. At this point he stumbled and fell back down. Amazingly, instead of ending the fight, the ref begins another 10 count! Khan uses all of his limbs to get back up but his legs are betraying him. He looks like a newborn deer and he hits the canvas again. Once again, the ref starts a fresh count. I'm yelling at the ref, "What the hell are you doing? That's a KO, you can't give him another count!" A third time, Khan struggles bravely to get back to his feet. At this point, a red balloon floats down from somewhere and lands in the ring right in front of him. Disoriented, Amir bends down, stiff-legged, to try and pick up the balloon and he loses his balance stumbling backward and then falls through the ropes. All I see are his gloves and shoes as they disappear into the darkness outside the ring.

I found this all to be quite an entertaining spectacle, especially because I believe Khan will handle Maidana with ease.