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  1. Boxing Girl

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    No, it's fact. Even Rob Palmer dismissed the belt Limond won. So again, and I will repeat it so I'm quite clear.....most of the British titles are worthless in terms being considered the worlds elite. If Brits are admitting that some of the British title belts are not that meaningful, and dismissing Morales win was not worth a damn....then you already prove my point. You have Michael Sprott winning some form of a British title belt every other fight you can't have them being considered legit belts above a high enough regarded belt that many great champions have worn it AT their best...not on the way to it. Now did I say every British belt is worthless.....no. Being the British champion of the word is a great accomplishment, but most of the other belts given out with a British tag are ridiculous....so you guys criticizing the IBO is taking a slap at your own belts, as most of the others don't rank above the WBU is terms of significance on the world stage.
     
  2. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let's get it right, there is one British title. The Commonwealth title, which Limond won, is not a British title. Yes, it's labelled with the 'British Empire' tag, but it's not considered a 'British' title. How can it be when all the countries within the Commonwealth can fight for it? It's like saying the OPBF belt is a Japanese title.
     
  3. LHL

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    The IBO rankings mean absolute shite to me. Yes they are accurate but have you seen them enforce fights? They are a good indication of the top ten but what's the point in getting a good ranking with them if it gets you the 5th rate belt behind some huge joke organisations. Even with a good ranking you will have to enforce the fight yourself the IBO won't be calling for purse bids with any top fighters because most of them don't give a flying **** about it.
     
  4. LHL

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    Have to say you are making some ridiculous statements on here about the british title.

    Lennox hadn't held the British belt since 1992 there is a reason he doesn't have it in that picture.

    Hatton hadn't even won the Lonsdale out right so why the **** would he be walking around with it?

    And what are these other British titles? There is one British title
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    The Commonwealth is not a british title its a title fought for by british fighters but its not the recognised title for the brits. Especially now seeing it is used as a 2nd path or a way of avoiding the top british fighter.
     
  5. Boxing Girl

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    When pascal beat Dawson...they said he "unified" with the belts...now I dont agree with that, as I Believe there are only 4 main belts but with some many tops names deciding to carry the IBO belt, along with there major belts it's clear a lot top fighters do care about it. When Antonio Tarver was light heavyweight champion....he prefered the IBO belt, as he was not enforced to do Mandatory fights with it, and he prusue Big fights like the ones he did with Glen Johson and Hopkins at the time. The reason these big name fighters keep it, is cause most have it ranked behind just behind the WBO.
     
  6. Boxing Girl

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    "a British title" covers a wide range for me. British empire, commonwealth, other euro belts that Brit fighters fight for ect ect. I did not say it was at the level of being THE British champion, and maybe it's the level of a WBC international belt....but as you said its a belt British fighters do fight for.

    Now the thing about past "british champs" Well in boxing, former champs often carry around past belts they won that they ended up vacating. Lewis and other Brit belts champs wanted to move up to the world stage....not a JUST country's belt....the world, and if being British champion of the world was worth more in there eyes then the ABC belts they one you would see them proudly display it with the others.
     
  7. Flashy

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    Have the IBO ever enforced a mandatory?
     
  8. Boxing Girl

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    Nope :p that and it's computer ranking are what is different about it that has helped get it to where it is today. Mandatory fights are one of boxing's biggest issues.
     
  9. SHERPAKOVSKI

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    Jenna is right as always.

    WBC,WBA,IBF,WBO and then its IBO
     
  10. Boxing Girl

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    Exactly :deal
     
  11. LHL

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    Honestly I don't know why you are harping on about the IBO being the 5th biggest what are its other rivals (personally there are 3 too many in the big 4 for me anyway so a 5th is definitely not needed) ? Obviously the Brit title doesn't carry pulling power on the world stage and I know that. But for you to call it worthless is a bit cheap for you to go on and talk about the IBO as if it were so prestigious to hold when it has only really come to prominence in the last 10 years or so. I'm not saying the IBO title is a joke I just think you should show the british a lot more respect than calling it worthless and even the Commonwealth (although it's lost its appeal laltely).

    Also for the record there IS one British title the Lonsdale belt look it up. The commonwealth is for the Commonwealth not just for British fighters. The Euro is for European fighters not just British fighters you should show respect for European boxing as to lump them all together as "British" belts is very disrespectful.

    On the last point the fighters do get to keep their belts like Lennox as he successfully fought in and won 3 brit title fights. Why would he bring the British title to a photo shoot probably 7 or 8 years after winning it and not being the current title holder seems strange to me. Would be like Briggs showing up at the Vitali press conference with his belt from a few years back and calling himself the champion. A bit pointless really.
     
  12. Boxing Girl

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    Like I already said....not every British title belt meaningless....and I did say becoming "the british champion" is great to accomplish. But there are a ton on meaningless belts on the british/euro stage. I simply view it for what it is....there is world stage, and there is regional stage.

    As for champs.....there is a difference between losing your belt...and vacating/stripped ;) If you never lost your belt in the ring, it's common for a champ to still proudly display it even if they are no longer officially champ of it :good
     
  13. kosaros

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    For the British title, you have to win 4 fights to win it outright (i.e get it for keeps). The title costs somewhere in the region of £6k to produce, hence why they can't just hand them out to any winner of the title. This is why you don't see many people parading the British title around like other titles :good

    Also, which belts do you see as being meaningless on the Brit/Euro stage?
     
  14. LHL

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    The only title I completely disregard is that EU title. Doesn't really carry much in comparison to the EBU.

    As for the champions retiring with it I haven't seen too many walk around in public with them.
     
  15. Boxing Girl

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    So Lennox Lewis won the title outright and did not display it proudly with the rest of his title belts like the IBO belt :huh And if you read....most of them....but if you want me to single one out...the Brits think the Commonwealth (British Empire) lightweight title is pretty meaningless :lol:

    WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO..........IBO > other belts :deal