Audleys strategy

Yeah and he lost to Carl Thompson too...

Great.

 

Haye in many fights if not most becomes ragged at one stage or another and that's what Audley's hoping for. Just to be in there long enough to land a solid shot/counter on Haye. Haye does leave himself open and i'm pretty sure he will continue to let the ammunition fly with reckless abandon.

I hope he doesn't rely on just landing one hard shot, he will have to do more then lay back and just jump on a mistake.

 

He probably needs to circle around the center of the ring, hanging that jab out to keep his distance and keep Haye off-balance, ramming him with that right jab everytime Haye tries to get inside, whilst backing both backing up slightly and stepping around laterally to keep Haye off-balance and to regain the range. He needs to double up the jab to prevent Haye trying to hook round it, fortunately he doesn't have to worry about Haye countering his jab with right hand over the top like he did with Enzo as it's obviously coming from the other side.

He just needs to keep that left hand high and not allow Haye to spot any gaps for the right hand. He's got to try and tire Haye out, yeah. Which is a risky strategy because he's got to make Haye work to do it. If he's not letting his hands go, he's not forcing Haye to work. He needs to get Haye frustrated and throwing sloppy punches and expending a lot of enegy, he needs to lean his weight on Haye each and everytime they clinch aswell. And yeah, look to set up that left hand eventually.

 

And I think thats another issue, because Audley has a tendency to shell up, only when you fight against someone who fights as intensely as what Haye can, he is capable of disorganizing you to the point where he is overwhelming and can sneak other shots in.

 

If Audley fights cagily looking for counters he won't do anything in the fight. It amuses me he's considered fast enough and sharp enough to do that at this stage. His only hope is to actually be aggressive, use his jab as a real weapon as we saw Haye troubled by Ruiz/Barrett's jab intermittently, and build off that. Try to make Haye uncomfortable and draw a mistake that way. There is no way he's going to counter Haye unless he's leading off first.

 

His game plan? PRAY!!!

I just dont see this going past 3 rounds.

 

I'd say the left uppercut while Haye is swarming him will be Audleys best chance. When in trouble Audley isn't afraid to let it go but its wether he lands it as he doesn't have much success with is from what i've seen and wether it will be enough to put Haye off from doing it again.

 

Agree, and the best place to draw mistakes, is by pressing Haye near the ropes from behind the stick, applying that mental pressure will make Haye move faster than he wants to, throw punches that he does not necessarily want to throw.

Harrison wants to counter, he better do it off the front foot, not sit out in centre ring trying to catch Haye coming in, problem there is, as I say, Harrison has a tendency to fall alseep behind the wheel, which is not a good idea when you playing stalker.

 

Exactly, I don't think Audley is a great counterpuncher at the moment. His reflexes are noticeably dimmed, to counterpunch you have to actually anticipate the shot, and react, which against somebody with the athletic ability of Haye is not an easy task at all. When Haye has been hit and hurt its been under pressure mostly when he's been occupied, and distracted.

He can't swing hopeful shots and leave himself open either, Haye's reactions are too good for huge swings, when was he last caught by a huge punch? Probably the right by Mormeck. He's got to be aggressive in a calculated way and use the jab to occupy Haye and press him back onto the ropes. If he can do that and Haye's looking for the jab he might find angles for an uppercut or left hand. That's the only way I see him remotely competing in the fight.

 

Three things Audley needs to do to win:

- Come forward behind a hard, consistent jab
- Fight positively, and throw punches for all three minutes of the round
- Punch with David Haye rather than wait for him to stop

The problem is that Audley doesn't do those things against less capable, less dangerous opposition. Why would he start doing it with the best guy he's ever faced?

He's not a counter-puncher naturally, his stamina's never been great (and it looked worse against Sprott) and he's not an aggressive fighter at all.

Anyone picking Audley is doing it on blind faith, nothing more.

 

I wouldn't say Audley should come forward and try to press the action behind his jab because he's not going to get anywhere with it. If Haye has to adopt Valuev tactics and manouvre again the ring, he will. Audley's not going to be able to press him to the ropes because there's a clear disparity in footspeed.

I think he needs to be cagey early on, but clever and composured along with that. Cagey doesn't mean not doing anything whatsoever, but he needs to keep his range for me, keep tight and try and sneak that left uppercut in on the inside when Haye comes in and tie up and lean on him in clinches.

I don't think he should try and counterpunch because as has been alluded to, he doesn't have the speed in all areas - including speed of thought - to do so and execute. He doesn't have the mentality of a counter puncher, but I think he needs to try and find a way being cagey and frustrating early on to take Haye out of his gameplan, force him adapt and create some openings for that left hand.

 

Yep, Harrison is almost 40, and he was never particularly quick to begin with. Haye wants, needs space and time to think, he wants to fight at his own pace, its Harrison's job to deny him that.

Agree 100%.

 

We do have our moments......

 

Valuev got relatively close, but he's probably 2 or 3 levels down from even Harrison in terms of foot and handspeed so he kept missing. Ruiz and Barrett did okay when they saw off the early storm, in terms of establishing their jab. Haye allows that by not working very hard in the middle rounds.

How's he going to frustrate Haye by standing there? He can cover up, but that won't do him much good. He'll only lose rounds doing that and have to come out of his shell in a more desperate situation. 'Frustrating' tactics are not going to work really unless there is some substance to them, Haye loves to fight at a slow pace and think his way around. There is no realistic way he can frustrate Haye without establishing his jab in truth.