The "Ring Title" should count as an "official title."

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  1. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny Knows.
     
    fighter86, Oct 31, 2010
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  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not necessarily. He is back at LHW, and The Ring didnt strip Calzaghe of his SMW title when he beat Hopkins for the LHW title. Calzaghe chose to vacate, as The Ring said they are not into stripping people of titles
     
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  3. Clarkson

    Clarkson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're right, the WBA, WBC, IBF & WBO have never had any issue with corruption.

    You have a point, it's a great policy not stripping their champions but one of the issues with the ring title is what to do when champions move division or dont defend their title.
     
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  4. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Ring title is a ****ing magazine award. It's about as meaningful as a Nickelodeon Kids Choice award.

    The Ring is the exact opposite of the way a real title has to exist. Without the other organisations - you know, the ones that have to deal with actually organising fights - the Ring wouldn't exist. Technically speaking, it's a parasite - living off the work of others.

    It's easy to sit round and suck your thumb about ratings and crap after everyone else has actually dug in and done the work.
     
    thesandman, Oct 31, 2010
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  5. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So Wlad has the Ring belt is that right? I don't really follow who has the Ring belt.

    Even though they gave it to Vitaly (for fighting Sanders? that was **** poor from the start), who retired, but is now back?

    What happened to beating the man who beat the man etc?
     
    thesandman, Oct 31, 2010
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  6. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    The Ring gave up its legitimacy when it gave Klitschko the Heavyweight Championship...
     
    unclepaulie, Oct 31, 2010
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  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Ring Belt more legit that WBA now. Haye was given WBA title on paper, but not in the ring. Vlad won WBA title by beating Chagaev who actually did beat Valoeuv in the ring.
     
    Farmboxer, Nov 1, 2010
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    unsigned_userv2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Harsh, but you're right on the money
     
    unsigned_userv2, Nov 1, 2010
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  9. Escopeta

    Escopeta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the ring belt a honor a privilege rather than world title bc no mandated fights etc
    same with the wba super belts (in their minds) its actually not an official champion but a honorary title.
     
    Escopeta, Nov 1, 2010
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    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Read below, it was a long time ago
    Read below, it may change your mind a bit
    :deal
     
    bailey, Nov 1, 2010
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  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    In response to the thread title - no !

    Its a biased pathetic little firm that has its favourites just like the rest of the sanctioning bodies, 1 more bit of **** on a pile of **** aint gonna improve anything, quite the opposite actually.
     
    Bill Butcher, Nov 1, 2010
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  12. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    The Ring is owned by dickheads and posers, masquerading as not being biased.
     
    TerryESB, Nov 1, 2010
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  13. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    I think for some time the Ring Magazine world title has been the difinitive title to hold :deal , nothing much more to say really
     
    thewinfella, Nov 1, 2010
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  14. Clarkson

    Clarkson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So in colnclusion - The WBA are ****, The WBC are ****, The IBF are ****, The WBO are **** and THE Ring are ****.

    So.......we have no world champions?
     
    Clarkson, Nov 1, 2010
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  15. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes and No, they have some weird quasi policies regarding their title, like for example how Pacquiao is still the 140 lbs champ when holding a belt at 147 and fighting for one at 150. Also, how wasn't the winner of Mayweather-Mosley crowned the Ring Welterweight Champion? It was the Number 1 ranked welter(number 3 P4P) vs the Number 2 welterweight(Number 2 P4P).

    But outside of that yes, they have been a great barometer on who is the champ and who isn't.
     
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