If Pac beats Marg, will you prefer his 130+under or his 135+over resume?

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  1. Raskolnikov

    Raskolnikov Guest

    If Pacquiao beats Margarito, that would leave his top 5 wins at 135lbs or higher as:

    - Cotto (welterweight, 2009)
    - Margarito (lightmiddleweight, 2010)
    - Hatton (lightwelterweight, 2009)
    - Oscar (welterweight, 2008)
    - Clottey (welterweight, 2010)


    And his top 5 wins at 130lbs or under is, imo:

    - Barrera 1 (featherweight, 2003)
    - Marquez 2 (superfeatherweight, 2008)
    - Morales 2 (superfeatherweight, 2006)
    - Sasakul (flyweight, 1998)
    - Ledwaba (superbantamweight, 2001)



    Which would be the better 'top 5'? :bbb
     
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  2. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    I'd have to think about this one.
    (Cotto & Margarito would look real strong next to eachother on the resume)

    Then you have Erik & Marco...
     
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  3. marvellous

    marvellous Member Full Member

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    Erik & Marco are ATG's, throw in JMM, throw in that he beat them 5x. Its a no contest.

    If Pac is to beat Floyd then it will be closer.
     
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  4. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    The ATG's on his resume are 130lbs and below.
     
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  5. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    :deal
     
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  6. BenjaminLinus

    BenjaminLinus Guest

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    Are you ****ing kidding me?

    Fighting at the higher weights meant Pac risked getting brutally KO'd/permanently damaged. Yet he destroyed and retired Oscar, caused a rip in the fabric of time when he punched Hatton into the next dimension, stopped a power-punching bruiser in Cotto, and made Clottey clam up for 12 rounds. All of these guys are elite fighters, and are greater wins imo.

    I'm not talking away from his achievements in the lower weights, but come on, it's not even a contest.

    :deal
     
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  7. rorymullan

    rorymullan Guest

    The leap in weight to beat some of the top guys 135+ makes it more impressive even with the ATG fighters below 135. 135+ vote from me.
     
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  8. haglerwon

    haglerwon Official GTMSBT Marquez Full Member

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    Below 140, Pac was a beast. There are zero questions about his accomplishments at that level.
     
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  9. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Barrera and Morales alone were better and harder challenges than any of his bouts including and since the De La Hoya bout. Pacquiao has had a great speed advantage over everyone since he has moved up.
     
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  10. naldo marshal

    naldo marshal heavyweight champ Full Member

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    long live king pacquiao!!!!
     
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  11. BrooklynMumin

    BrooklynMumin HOPKINS A " G " Full Member

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  12. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    if Pac beats Floyd, his 130+ accomplishments would be better.
     
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  13. ant

    ant Ride The Walrus Full Member

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    i think 135+ i feel that for all the hype he was quite inconsistant in featherweight also i think marco and erik are better than cotto marg by alot but i feel if pac beats margo then hes beaten 2 in better condition cause lets face it morales was past it when pac got to him and the fight with barrera was hugely at a bad time for marco

    but at the end of the day you can only beat whats in front of you
     
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  14. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    If Marg hasnt faded or lost momentum that will be a big win no matter what you think of the guy, 150lbs could not be a better weight for Margo to be at IMO.
     
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  15. marvellous

    marvellous Member Full Member

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    The higher weights has more glam, hence why he is more famous now, specially after beating DLH. From a historical pov though, had he stayed at 130, beat another 2 champs who were considered top fighters and then goes on to beat another 3 ATG's combined 5 times, historically he would be rated even higher than he is now.

    What he did at the lower weights would be comparable to him going to LW, beating Juan Diaz, go to JWW, beating Alexander, go to WW and beat Mosley near his prime ie 10 years ago, ODLH slightly past it and a close fight with Tito in his prime.
     
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