Best skillset: Morales, Calzaghe, or Trinidad

At some point, this thread is going to come under fire for not having defined "skill set"...maybe we should get it over with?

 

Basically you mean "who is better at doing boxing"?

 

Strictly speaking, Calzaghe is the toughest to beat at his chosen weight. His is a young division and talented. Start counting the guys that passed through 160 to 175 or guys that had to battle and battle to stay at 160 because there was no 168lb division and he's dragged back into the pack with the other two. Some similar thoughts on Morales, who is the most complete of the above.


I'll plump for Calzaghe.

 

Skills to me are how good at the techinical aspects of boxing a fighter is, how varied are his abilities and how well schooled he is on what he does in the ring. It doesnt mean to me, how good a fighter is or isnt.

For example.

Mayorga in his prime, was not highly skilled. His fundementals were flawed, he was fairly straightforward (though akward), and his skillset was not on par with some of his peers.

That, however, is not a judgement for how good he was, or how hard to beat he may have been at a certain timeframe. He fought to his strengths, maximising them with his natural ability to the point where he was able to beat and overcome much more skilled opponents, and is a great example of skills not equaling quality.

So for me, skills is just another attribute.... so when I rank these fighters, it has nothing to do with how great I think they are or even good, or how 'hard to beat' they are at their chosen weight, but on my opinion of how good their actual skillset are in relation to eachother.

I dont know if that made any sense but I hope so

Anyways, I would rank Morales ahead of both of them...... and Im not as confident at seperating JC/Tito.....

Titos great power and underrated speed shouldnt be confused with skills. While his skills (how he threw his punch, standing on the balls of his feet, getting full torque on his punches) no doubt helped add that extra zip on what he did, you could take plenty of other fighters and have them get that technique down to a T and they wont punch close to as hard as Tito did, including JC. But, like I said, Titos skills were there..... and this is evident in his 147 and 154lb fights, not so much his middleweight fights and above in which he became a much simpler fighter. (which is often the case with past it, even slightly, fighters)

But I think Tito had solid skillset and good technique, nothing crazy but they were there.

However, JC had his fair shair of underlying skills as well. Just like I'm not going to hold Titos later performences against him, one shouldnt hold JC's performences in the Hopkins, Manfredo and Jones fight be his definition. He was more then just a guy who threw a lot of punches.

JC, while he is my least fav fighter of all time pretty much lol, had the ability to 'go through the gears' and establish a rate and pace that best fit the situation. He could avoid punishment while still laying down a heavy wall of activity, and his judgement of distance and control of the combat is in itself, a skill.

So I have a hard time placing one above the other between those two, but I do have Morales above both of them in terms of skillset. Morales threw with accute precision, and could be underrated in his defence as well as textbook in his offense, in which he would often throw every punch in the book and didnt have to fall back on one thing or another to win fights as much as his complete package of abilities and attributes.

So while I can see the argument there for any one of them being #1 I suppose, for me I have to go with El Terrible :good

 

Yeah, Kirk, and Morales is bound to come up #1 just from the way the question is worded. Not that he's a bad choice or anything.