Would Pacquiao get more respect for the De la hoya fight

He would definitely get more credit if the De La Hoya who Mayweather beat turned up...but that most likely was never going to be the case.

 

Oh he definitely gets credit for it...the guy moved up two weight divisions having only fought at 135lbs once, although some people only mention Pacquiao moving up, and not De La Hoya moving down to a weight he hadn't been at in years.

* This is also the problem when people discuss the Mayweather Mosley bout. Mayweather beat the guy who destroyed Margarito, he beat the guy everyone wanted him to step into the ring with...Mayweather didn't know which Mosley was going to turn up. Which is why I find it funny when people try to discredit his win over Mosley, yet make out that Pacquiao beat the best version of De La Hoya.

Both deserve credit for their respective wins, but some people can under and overrate both wins aswell.

 

The dude stepped up a weightclass and had only one fight at LW, and then immediately went up another two divisions to face Oscar. What more could he have done to even things out? If Oscar was as drained as people make out, Pacquiao shouldn't be criticized for it. He just turned up and did his job.

Oh and it should be noted that even Nacho Beristain, who had a far better judgement of Oscar's condition, said Oscar was in good shape and that he wasn't as drained as people have made out - Pacquiao was just too good on the night.

 

It was the same Mosley though, Mayweather just neutralized him beautifully after he got tagged.

 

I don't believe he was the same Mosley who destroyed Margarito, but I wouldn't say he was far off. The Mosley that was in with Mora wasn't a shadow of either.

A year out, and 2 near enough full training camps make me believe that it wasn't the same Mosley up against Margarito. But I also don't believe that Mosley tired on his own. I believe it was a combination of his exertions in the 2nd round, his adrenaline running out...and Mayweather hitting him and making him miss from the 3rd round onwards.

 

pacquiao stepped-up two weight classes here and this is after just 1 fight at 135. pac gets credit for this even just for taking the fight.

 

Pacquiao stepping in with De La Hoya was the bigger risk, and Mayweather was the favourite against Mosley. But I also believe both bouts are comparable in what was said and thought before both bouts.

De La Hoya was the massive favourite (and I thought he was going to win big, until I seen the weigh-in...at that point I thought it was 50-50) against Pacquiao. But for a good few months before the Mayweather v Mosley bout was made...the majority were claiming Mayweather was scared to get in with Mosley, Mosley was going to knock him out if he did. And once the bout was made, the same thing was said. Although Mayweather was the favourite...what was said before both bouts is similar in my opinion.

 

Oscar was NEVER a favorite against poochiao if you truly know your boxing. Sorry kid.

 

Well it's clear from that statement that you didn't start watching boxing until some time after that bout. Sorry kid.

 

There shouldn't be a big debate about De La Hoya coming down from 154 to 147 - the guy stated that he intended to have a couple of more fights after Pacquiao around the same weight, that was until round 8 where he knew that he no longer had it; in fact if you believe what he says then he knew whilst he was in camp!

 

Oscar was ONLY a favorite in the media and those who fall for it like newbies in boxing like you. :hey

 

And didn't his former coach (i.e. Freddy Roach) say he couldn't make the weight, and his sparring partners (i.e. Edwin Valero) say he wasn't right at that weight?

Of course Oscar would say he wants to continue fighting, he was still a major draw, and with the welter scene containing the more markeable stars of course you'd want them over junior middle.