Haye's last 8 opponents

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  1. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Valuev is a terrible terrible performance and a decent win on paper , he threw 12 punches a round and Holyfield , yes Holyfield put in a much more well rounded boxing performance than Haye :deal

    Ruiz was shot to bits with no hand speed , and Hit Haye A LOT !!!!!! subsequently retired also !!!

    Both wins should be noted as nothing more than average wins against weak opposition !!!!
     
  2. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    sounds like a heavyweight version of floyd mayweather.....

    just think, he may fight a 41-42 year old roy jones or maybe even a 45 year old hopkins next.... hopefully he fights the 39 year old vitali....not all 39 year olds will suck..and he knows that:lol:
     
  3. slo100

    slo100 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's like calling a SR-71 “Blackbird” dropping from Mach 3 to Mach 2.5 "slowing down".
     
  4. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    Harrison won Prizefighter, which any top heavyweight would be expected to win. Imagine a top 5 heavy fighting in PF? They'd wipe the floor with the opposition. He was getting a good beating against Sprott before stopping him, although his injury gives him some credibility

    Ruiz didn't fight smart against Haye. He should have roughed him up and fought dirty like he usually does, instead he (inexplicably) decided to box him :huh

    Valuev- uninspiring performance. Haye did as little as possible to win the fight

    Barrett- well past prime, but I suppose he was coming off a good win and has went on to beat Tua since then. Meh
     
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  6. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Compared to other heavyweights (outside the Klitschkoes), Haye's resume isn't so bad. It's his volume of fights that is bad. He just doesn't fight very often...he's only had 3 fights since Mormeck back in freaking 2007.

    That said I don't think Nico and Ruiz represent top-level heavy tests. Valuev was much more nimble against Haye than against Holyfied, but was still slow and terrible. Ruiz put on a brave show but surely he is well past his prime.
     
  7. naldo marshal

    naldo marshal heavyweight champ Full Member

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    poor haye!!! hope he will soon fight vitali when he's been 40 years or up to it, and fight wlad at 45 years old :cool:
     
  8. Peter Brit

    Peter Brit Member Full Member

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    To be fair to Haye take a look at the top 25 rated heavies for the past 5 years. Look at the way people like Tua walk straight back into the top rankings. The problem is the division not Haye.

    How often do the pensioners fight, well a lot make Haye look really active.
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    People peak at different times and ages. Many people have wrote on here that the G Johnson who was being beaten by S Ottke wasnt as good as the 40 year old version that C Dawson struggled to beat.
    What I would mention are the other facts you miss.
    Fragomeni - undefeated and went on to become a world champ after Haye beat him
    Bonin - had never been KOd as quickly
    Mormeck - Then regarded as the best CW in the world and was Ring, WBC & WBA champ. So who would you have wanted Haye to challenge for the title?
    Maccarinelli - The WBO champ, who was on his best run and favoured by some to beat Haye. Now Haye has ruined him
    Barrett - Happend because many other highly rated HWs wouldnt face Haye, and it was a fight the fans were at the time happy for as Barrett was coming off a big win over T Fields.
    Valuev - Wasnt past his peak, and had only lost one fight, and was WBA HW champ. What dont you get? The champ is the champ, whatever age he is, and Haye beat him.
    Ruiz - Arguably one of Americas best HWs for years and was mandatory, but note Ruiz had only ever been stopped once by Tua yet Haye scored a stoppage
    Harrison - Not a great fight, but makes great business sense, in an all British title fight

    Remember how much has since been discovered about the Klitschkos fight contracts

    So in 24 fights Haye won the WBC WBA WBO RING CW TITLES AND THE WBA HW TITLE. good going
     
  10. tohru222

    tohru222 Member Full Member

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    I have to say that in my opinion boxers don't peak at 36 or 37.

    Well Fragomeni is a good fighter but who exactly did he beat before facing Haye?

    Sorry but that's a stupid argument. Bonin never fought against top opposition, not before Haye and not after Haye. Just to give you an idea Bonin's last 4 fights before Haye were against Ihar Shukala, Adenilson Rodrigues, Oleksandr Subin and Pavel Silvin.

    Mormeck was maybe slightly past his peak, but in general I agree that he was a good champion and he's by far Haye best win IMO.

    It turned out Maccarinelli isn't all that great since he got KO 3 times after Haye. And I don't think Haye cleaned CW either, there were at least Cunningham and Wlodarczyk.

    Barrett got KO by Solis and Cliff Couser in 2 rounds for example. If I remember correctly Ustinov also beat him.

    I don't get how can you conclude that Valuev wasn't past his peak. Of course he was.


    Ruiz was way past his prime.

    Well but I wasn't talking about the bussiness expect now, was I? IMO Haye desperately needs a prime top ten HW.

    :tired
     
  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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  12. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good article
     
  13. tohru222

    tohru222 Member Full Member

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    And what exactly has Harrison done as a pro? He even got KO in 3 rounds by Sprott. He lost against Rogan, Guin and Danny Williams etc. So being in a competitive fight with Harrison doesn't mean much.

    That's your opinion, I think he is exactly the same as before.

    I believe that both Wlod and Cunningham could have troubled Haye. But anyway I am not saying Haye should have fought them, just that he did not clean the CW division. That's a fact.

    Only fighter willing to step up against Haye? okaaaay.

    IMO a MD against 46 years old Holyfield (which many thought was a loss) is an indication that he was declining. Either that or he was poor in the first place.

    Blablabla. Didn't he say he would knock out the Klitschkos? If he does that then he'd become a real legend and make so much money that he'd more than compensate for any contract.
     
  14. suckeggs

    suckeggs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pointless argument. The 2 best in the division are over 36
     
  15. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haye likes the ****.