How much would loaded hand wraps help you anyway?

First the tape does not have that much adhesive, second the DA would of found some type of acrylic, or neoprene in the test. Thirdly, everyone testified there was a WHITE SUBSTANCE.

And fourthly, again, why would they be using a pad thats been taped over before?

Knucklepads are covered by the gauze when you wrap your hands. They don't get touched by tape, so you are suggesting that either they've used a taped knucklepad in the past, or that capetillo spent the time to take a tape knucklepad, take the tape OFF. Then use it ? Why would anyone even waste such a time like that?

Your theory is stupid.

 

Did you even read the court document?

 

We have no idea if Margarito knew. I am 50/50 on whether or not he knew what was going on.

There is no doubt that something was illegal with those pads. If they were just old, they wouldn't of been illegal.

Emmanuel Steward already cleared the situation that just because they are old doesn't mean they get hard. He has Lennox Lewis hand wraps from the Tyson fight and they are still soft.


There was a white substance, identified by many who were interviewed and testified. The pads weren't soft, which is not what gauze is meant to be like, simple as that.


There shouldn't be an argument whether or not those pads were illegal. They were.

It's up to knowing whether or not if Margo knew.



It's come down to this, Margo's back in the sport, but he should of had to earn his way to a fight, not be handed it. Whether or not he knew, it was his responsibility for hiring his trainer who deceived him possibly.


If he earns his way back and is able to do the same things as before, I'm sure people will forgive him and rule it that he didn't know.

 

1st your wrong there is alot of adheisive on the tape that is used to wrap hands...
and to answer your question as to how there would be adhesive on the pads, it depends on how they are wrapped some trainers go over the pad with the gauze while others put the pad on last and secure the pad with the gauze that goes in between the fingers....
However even if a layer of gauze went over the pads, the gauze has holes in it, in which the glue from the tape can get smeared on....

just be ****ing real with it, because its clear as day anyways, No matter what your going to continue to lable him as a cheater, as guilty and as he was all knowing about it, your NOT trying to look at this objectively.... But yet will look at Mayweather beating up his wife in front of his kids and threatening his own kids.... you expect us to beleive thats all BS and yet when it comes to Margarito its a whole different story...

**** you.

 

what i've been saying since day 1 is this....

we'll pretty much get an idea based on how he acts towards capetillo....right way, fires him and looks for a new trainer in the public eye, not really hiding anything

bring in the possibility that he was paid off by arum, and now you would have a paranoid margarito who knows damn well capetillo can blow his covers at any given time....what do we have now, margo saying that he's hurt that capetillo would do this, and even goes on to joke about the subject on his route to making millions without capetillo

to me, margarito is acting like a true victim and isn't scared for any type of truth to come out cause he knows the truth is already out, and capetillo took the full blame and rightfully so....i just can't stomache the fact that capetillo could've been facing prison time, knew his fighter was gonna go on with his career, AND STILL TOOK THE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT.....that's amazing and takes a lot of guts....so even though capetillo is pretty messed up for doing that, he deserves a little, tiny bit of respect for telling the truth.....

now, it was up to the CSAC to tests these wraps, tell us how dangerous they really would've been, and taken this to trial.....but as we can all see they failed miserably at that...and now we have a bunch of fans with many questions.....

 

You're thinking it's going to come off like duct tape, which it's not.

If you are suggesting that capetillo puts tape over it (which we already know that's not his style) considering that the pad was COVERED by gauze, not tape when it was discovered. :deal

To have that much build up of glue gum on there would suggest that they've used that pad a lot and re taped it over and over and over. So be adding quite a bit amount of glue gum to a good size piece of gauze doesn't help margaritos cause in making him look innocent. That would of further induce that the pads were illegal.

Where did I say I expect you to believe it's BS? I merely said lets wait for more information, this is the same woman who's lied before.

And I also said that if he did do this, he should go to jail.

Big whoop. My signature is all I need to show this forum what type of person you are.

 

If this were the case wouldnt margo have smashed this deceiving trainers face in for potentially wreaking his career?

He shouldnt have even got this golden opportunity presented on a plate by pac and his team, i hope cheato makes pac and roche sweat a bit in the fight, then loses pretty hard. Its difficult to even imagine a trainer tampering with wraps and knuckle pads without a fighter knowing about it, highly unlikely i would have thought

 

You should consider the source, the Newyork post is considered a paparazzi type of newspaper.....

In any regards the happening as described in that article have since been shown to be false.

I heard alot of the commision hearings on an internet feed when Margarito had a reinstatement hearing with the CSAC........as described by the CSAC, it is not true that Richardson walked in with one hand already being wrapped......that is erroneous.
Richardson in fact was there from the beggining, acting up and complaining every move Capetillo made and questioning everything.......

The only thing that Richardson did'nt do was ask to see and feel the first knucklepad placed on Margarito's first handwrap.

It was'nt until Capetillo placed the second knucklepad on Margarito's other hand that Richardson asked the inspector that he wanted to touch and feel the knucklepad that had been taken out of Capetillo's bag.

When an irregularity was found with that knucklepad, Richardson under the objections of Capetillo insisted that Margarito unwrap the hand that was already wrapped.........Margarito however, stuck out his hand to Capetillo and told him, "unwrap me."

......this was the testimony from the commision inspector there at the scene.

 

wow....

 

capetillo got banned any way, marg couldn't use him any way. That didn't show nothing he is just a cheat.

 

The tape used has just as much gum on it as duct tape.
and having that much build up I agree it does suggest its been used, which was their story right? they used an old pair of pads....

As far as your Sig, I could give a **** less what kind of person you think I am, what i said to you regarding that issue, which is 100% off topic was not aimed at anybody other than your sorry ass.
I said that **** to get under your skin and obviously it worked...
now if you wanna keep crying like a little ***** then do so.... I didnt come here to create a fan club.

 

Interesting because I do recall someone somewhere say that Richardson had uncharacteristically entered late to observe the wraps. What I would like to know is why HBO is not showing the videos of the wrappings. Plus, why isnt the CSAC and chief CSAC inspector and witness Che Guevara not held any accountability for allowing team Margarito to wrap the gloves in the way that they did. I mean if the CSAC previously allows something then how does it become Margarito's fault.

Moreover, I found more kangaroo poo going on and here are a few examples from pg. 48 and 49 reveal there were all kinds of logical petitions by Margarito’s lawyer declined ny the court including all lab results. There were also key witness who had worked for the CSAC fired and not allowed to testify on Margarito’s behalf. Plus, they tried to entice Margarito into perjury http://www.dca.ca.gov/csac/about_us/meetings/20100818_agenda.pdf

Petitioner contends the Commission violated his due process rights by failing to produce several magnified photographs of one of the illegal knuckle pads until mid-hearing. (Pet'r.'s Mem. P. & A., p. 15: 3-10.) Petitioner ignores the fact, demonstrated both in the hearing transcript and by the dates on the photographs themselves, that

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(AR Exh. L, p. 38: 9-18.) The hearing began at 8:40 a.m., making production of the photographs prior to the hearing unfeasible.

Petitioner contends that because the Commission did not produce the laboratory testing results for the right hand-wrap until months after the hearing, the Commission's revocation of his license violated his due process rights. (Pet'r.'s Mem. P. & A., p. 11-18.)

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Moreover, while Petitioner characterizes the results as "inconclusive," they certainly are not exculpatory-if anything, they confirmed the Commission's finding that the knuckle pads violated Regulation 323. (Pet'r. 's Mem. P. & A., 15: 15-16, fn. 9.)

In short, Petitioner can maintain no good-faith argument that the actions of the Commission violated his right to due process of law in the proceedings to revoke his license to professionally box.

CONCLUSION ​

For the reasons stated above, the Commission respectfully requests that the Court deny Petitioner's Motion for Writ of Mandate and dismiss the Petition without leave to amend.
Dated: August 28, 2009 Respectfully Submitted,
EDlyfUND G. BROWN JR.
KAREN B. CHAPPELLE Supervising Deputy Attorney General
Attorneys for Respondent California State Athletic Commission

 

Mike Bray (an inspector who entered the dressing room during the dispute) recalled, “I observed what appeared to be a blood stain on the corner of the pad. I also noticed that it was moist and dirty-looking. The pad had the appearance that it had been used before. After looking at the pad closer, I could see a white substance smeared across the face of the pad and into the gauze. I touched the white substance, and it was hard to touch. It looked like a cast plaster or maybe a thicker type of white out that you would put on paper.”

This inspector said smeared.

 

The photo I just mentioned of this smear shows it to be only as thick as one thread of gauze

 

Who would expect it to be thicker than thing? It was likely set to soak in the gauze itself not on top of it. As you can see from the up close photos the substance was all over the gauze.