Hopkins-Calzaghe scorecard with notes

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Raskolnikov, Aug 30, 2010.


  1. Raskolnikov

    Raskolnikov Guest

    It is very apparent from this thread that the people who disagree vehemently with my card are also the people who fail to say what rounds I have scored wrongly, or why.

    It is pretty clear that these gimps merely watched the fight, saw that one guy was flapping his hands around more than the other guy, and automatically thought it was clear win for him then.

    General Forum gimps with no understanding of the sport at all IMO.
     
  2. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How many 10-10 rounds do you have? Your scoring is terrible.
     
  3. SonOfCuba

    SonOfCuba Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins won that fight.
     
  4. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As much as I would like to give it to him, no he didn't.
     
  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    You scored 117-113 Hopkins. I scored 117-112 Calzaghe.
    We agree on 8 rounds out of 12.
    Overall Calzaghe DID land MORE solid shots on Hopkins and alot of Hopkins shots that people claim, were also glancing (not all by any means) but alot.
    We disagree on rounds 3, 4, 5, 6 & 7.
    Round 3 Calzaghe pressed the action and landed more. Neither got caught with anything heavy. Calzaghe round for me
    Round 4 Same as above for me. Calzaghe round
    Round 5 same as above, and Calzaghe lands the cleaner harder shots
    Round 6 Closer round. I think Calzaghe won the round, but could see and argument for Hopkins if pushed
    Round 7 I felt Joe clearly won round 7 but said even to give Hopkins some points. Hopkins only landed one solid shot in a round along with a headbutt, in a round Calzaghe controlled the other 2:50 of.

    I still scored it 117-112 for Calzaghe, but in trying to give Hopkins rounds of 6 & 7 which I dont think he won, the best I could give Hopkins is 115-114 Calzaghe, but in truth Calzaghe should have been a 117-111 victor to me, but 117-112 is what I gave to Calzaghe
     
  6. Raskolnikov

    Raskolnikov Guest

    I have as many 10-10 rounds as I believe there actually were. There were a good few very close rounds in this fight. Only a moron would purposefully try to avoid scoring 10-10 rounds, and award them arbitrarily to one fighter just to avoid having 10-10s. That's not true scoring. You have to award the score that you really felt was just. As I have said, I can explain and back up my scoring. You seem to have nothing else to contribute to this thread than lame one-sentence posts with no scorecard, no criteria, no reasoning, nothing except boring insults. "Good article" indeed :lol:
     
  7. RedDragonBoxing

    RedDragonBoxing Ametuer Boxer Full Member

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    Well no offence but the fact that you had the score cards that wide shows how biased you are towards hopkins. I scored the fight 115-113 Calzaghe but dont get me wrong it was a close fight and when SD's happen even if hopkins got the official decision i wouldnt moan or whine because its a close fight and different people judge fights in different ways however you basicly scored hopkins winning nearly every damn round. im sorry but this is the kinda thing that puts me of boxing
     
  8. Raskolnikov

    Raskolnikov Guest

    You clearly give close rounds to the guy who flapped his arms around more.

    I don't, I look to see who did the more effective work.

    We are working on different principles, different criteria.

    You prefer workrate, I prefer quality.

    It's a difference in sensibility when it comes to scoring fights.

    On that basis, I assume you thought Devon Alexander beat Kotelnik???
     
  9. Raskolnikov

    Raskolnikov Guest

    I very much hope it does indeed put you off boxing, because the sport doesn't need fans like you, who feel their conviction waver after reading a scorecard which is different from your own. You should try a sport which doesn't involve scorecards, tennis perhaps?
     
  10. RedDragonBoxing

    RedDragonBoxing Ametuer Boxer Full Member

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    Dude i got nothing against you if you scored it for hopkins, it wasnt Calzaghe best performance and he did fight amateurish at times but at the end of the day he also did the best anyone could with the way hopkins was fighting. just the fact anyone would score it that wide for either fighter shows bias in what was a close ( albeit boring ) fight
     
  11. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This conversation is redudant anyway.

    There was polls ran at the time and Calzaghe, the offical victor, was recognised as such by the ESB boxing community.

    And Calzaghe deserves immense credit for this win. According to Compubox numbers, he hit Hopkins more times than any other opponent, overcame adversity in the intial rounds to adapt to one of the most notoriously difficult fighters to out think, and reduced this great fighter to rolling about the floor pleading for a breather from the relentless Calzaghe attack.

    The win looked even better in the context of Hopkins humiliating Kelly Pavlik who IMO has never been the same since then.

    A great win for Calzaghe and a deserved one.
     
  12. Raskolnikov

    Raskolnikov Guest

    I disagree. I had a 4-point margin of victory. If that makes you want to log off, rip your boxing posters off the wall, and hate the sport you once loved, then good for you! :lol:
     
  13. GBT

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    Calzaghe did what he had to do against an ultra defensive minded dirty fighter. Calzaghe should get credit for thinking on his feet and changing tactics, you can't defend yourself for 2.59 of a round throw one good punch and expect to win the round, Hopkins lost but the real loser for this fight was boxing
     
  14. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some of us are at work. You should try it, it quite rewarding:lol:

    I would love to sit at my desk writing paragraphs on why hopkins lost the fight, but I don't have that luxury.
     
  15. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This clown joins in july, telling the world that his cousin introduced him to the forum. And look at him telling people they should watch another sport.:lol: