How Castillo had success against Floyd......

I'm not quite sure I agree with everything you have said here, but I very much enjoyed reading this, not enough people on this forum take the time to scrutinize fights and try to discuss the technical level. Props to you, and cheers for posting :happy

 

Oscar, Judah, Castillo in the first fight, and Mosley at least for 2 rounds, all had some sort of success with Floyd. What all these had in common was that all were very good fighters, but each one of their styles is so different than the other, so how did they achieve that success? Months before the Mosley fight, it was agreed with many people they believed if Mosley got his jab going and using one of Floyd's own techniques, where he jabs to the chest, might give Mosley some success. For those first 2 rounds, I was shocked and had some hope as Mosley was matching Floyd punch for punch, he looked faster than Floyd, and actually jabbing Floyd to the chest before lowering the boom. Floyd was a trooper for taking that monstrous right hook and quickly adapted to Mosley, going on the attack, forcing Mosley back knowing Mosley can't fight moving backwards. Mosley's mistake was forgetting about the jab and mysteriously gassing out, but that was obvious in the Mora fight too, it's obvious Mosley is just getting old. Everyone talks about Floyd adapting to the fighter, but no one mentions someone adapting to Floyd. A fighter I am almost sure could of beaten Floyd was Winky. If you notice, in his prime, I'm talking the Vargas to Trinidad fights, he was abit unpredictable himself. One round he's going upstairs and another round he's exclusively doing bodyshots. Another he's covering up and coming towards you, forcing you to throw like he did with a prime Mosley. If a fighter covers up and does the same deal to Floyd, a defensive fighter himself, he's gonna make Floyd come forward or at least by pushing Floyd back forcce Floyd to throw or at least push his opponent off him, leaving himself open and out of his comfort zone. Winky wasn't a big puncher, but he was still very physically strong. A fighter with either a good defense or a good chin is big problems for Floyd.

 

floyd would have gotten ko'd by mosley if he didn't have his buddies from USADA backing him.

 

Agree with TS. He likes to move North/South and is very quick. His lateral movement isn't as good. Watch the Hatton fight in the first round when he tries to sidestep and counter hatton and gets knocked way off balance. That's one reason I think Floyd would have trouble with Pac because he may not be able to keep Pac at a distance due to Pac's quicker lateral movement.

 

What are you talking about??

I was talking to MichiganWarrior, Leon, SweetJones and Nallege and they all said floyd won at least 8 of the 12 rounds.

It was a complete lopsided boxing lesson, according to these objective boxing fans.

 

LOL @ B-Hops face on your AV.

 

What the castillo fight showed is how good fundamental, boxing skills and ring smarts can go to trouble floyd. Floyd isn't as versatile as people think. He fights one way most of the time, and he's usually too fast and slick for the other guy to deal with. Castillo was heavily outmatched in terms of speed yet he basically shut Mayweather down. It was an effective jab, combiantion punching and ring generalship that did the job. Even an old Hoya made Mayweather look really ordinary.

 

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He hasn't improved a lot. He was a better boxer back when he fought Castillo, and younger.

 

Giving someone 'trouble' and actually being able to beat them are world's apart.

 

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I have to agree to be honest.

A helluva lot of the belief in Mayweather's abilities is founded on (a) Floyd's own self-propaganda, (b) the fact he has a zero (which he shouldn't even have because JLC deserved the verdict for sure 1st time around), and (c) he really hasn't faced many prime top-class fighters.

When Floyd faces someone as fast as him or someone with both strength and intelligence, he struggles. He relies on his own speed a lot.

He has an excellent defence, but not such a potent offence. He's highly beatable and always has been. Nowhere even remotely close to the calibre of a Pernell Whitaker or a Ray Leonard.