Haye's last 8 opponents

David Haye is getting bashed here, but the facts remain he holds the lesser of the HW title straps and if he has the balls he can fight to be the HW champion of the world.

Let me also state that both Wlad and Vitali are old men, and if he fought one of those in the next 6 months no one would be saying he was fighting old men as they are both in top physical shape and elite HW's, holding the elite straps.


The problem with those opponents is that are were old and bashed up in the main- Ruiz and Barret or just plain useless in Valuev.

His HW resume is very unimpressive, but he can change that by stepping up to his words.

 

You can do this with any fighter. Watch, it's fun. Here's Floyd Mayweather for example.

Shane Mosley, 36, ud 12, shot to bits
Juan Manuel Marquez, 36, ud 12, one-dimensional and old
Ricky Hatton, 29, ko 7 crap
Oscar De La Hoya, ud 12 35, hopelessly shot

You see how this works? When you exclude anyone outside the P4P #5 as being any good, or find appropriate reasons why they should be thought of as no good, then you can call any fighter what you want!

Real boxing fans know that Haye's record, after just 25 fights, is pretty good. Winning world titles in two weights in 25 fights is a good achievement in this sport. Who were the Kiltschko's fighting in their 25th fight each?

I saw Haye coming up in England early in his career, and he had noticeably harder opposition than your average, shielded, british prospect. He didn't just fight 30 bums then win the WBO title, he fought ranked guys and progressed through the traditional way, with English, British, Commonwealth and European titles before taking a world title shot, against a good fighter in Mormeck.

People talk so much **** on this forum it's unbelievable.

 

Lets face it though. Harrison is a crap fight. A joke of a fight, might aswell have given Martin Rogan or Tyson Fury a shot.

 

Or a Chisora like Wladimir. Kettle and black rorymullan.

K brothers can argue half decent fighters avoid them so they have to fight crap oppentents. that is the only difference between them and Haye at present. Harrison is not worse than a Briggs (10 years to old, 40 pounds to heavy, 4 rounds of fighting in 3 years, substance abuser, much slower reflexs that ten years ago) or an untested at even european level chisora.

Chageva had a split decision over Ruiz, so the level is compareable. People rate Chageva on Wladimir cv as a good win.

Haye does look better than other heavies around with the exception of Sollis for me.

 

If there was money in Rogan and Fury those fights would happen no doubt. Haye as zero interest in getting good fights made, all he cares about is making safe money with the least risk possible.

He has a big mouth and a big desire to minimize risk. Boxing won't miss this dip**** clown once he retires.

 

Not bitching at all, but as a champ you dont have to be dictated to :smoke, and if a contract isnt even, then it is down to the guys not handing out a fair deal, not the guy who dosent except, when he dosent have to.
Ruiz was a mandatory and not worth losing the belt over, because then you dont have a bargaining tool against the Klitschkos :smoke.
You say Haye should fight Povetkin (who dosent want it, when offered a title chance), Adamek, Solis etc, but the Klitschkos havent fought those guys yet either, though there are talks of Vitali fighting Adamek next.
Harrison is arguably a more accomplished fighter than Chisora, who I agree was lucky to get a contract, but then why didnt Solis get the call, if thats what you think?
Adamek is a guy who has struggled with regional HWs and although hasnt lost like Audley hasnt beaten any HW at the level of Williams or Sprott for that matter

 

Dosent sound right. Read below

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tohru222 Yes but Ruiz was actually better against haye than he was against Chageva. watch the fights

 

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Wlad and Vitali would be 35 and 40 by the time Haye actually got to them. By your logic they may as well not bother with the fight as they're far too old.

How old was the Lennox Lewis that brutalised Vitali's face and stopped him?

Point is, Wlad's last 8 opponents were ****ing awful and Vitali's comeback has been a joke.

This thread is just more BS Klit propaganda.

 

Forgetting to note that when Audley beat Williams he was 36-5 and had already beaten Audley, and not forgetting undefeated K Meehan, Sprott who years later won the European title, 50-4 Tyson, avenged his loss to J Francis, and Skelton. Also one of his losses was to V Klitschko.
So who has Estrada and Arreola beaten of that level?
Sprott is by no means a great and very beatable but has achieved more than Arreola or Estrada. Consider Sprott had a win over Williams mentioned above, before Audley, not to mention olympic champ Audley himself along with, Timo Hoffmann :rofl

 

Your Hero is a Coward and his fans are deluded.:yep

you got to man up and grow pair of balls, give Haye one too.:hey

 

Chagaev was in his early 30s when Wlad faced him.

Ruiz was 38 years old and completely shot and over the hill when Haye fought him. Ruiz simply came to pick up his pay-check, just like all the American bums Wlad is boxing.

Audley is another old bum, the only difference is that compared to Ruiz he has never ever won any fight against a rated professional boxer. *NOT A SINGLE ONE*. Audley is leagues worse than a shot-to-pieces, old Briggs (who beat ranked fighters in his prime) and even a completely green Chisora -- who while being a nobody is at least physically in his prime.

Haye knows exactly why he is hand-picking these old nobodies, it's not a secret. He knows the second a HW power-punch lands on his chin it's game over. That's why at HW he boxes near 40 year old past-prime bums with zero reflexes and hand-speed.