Cooper vs Bugner.

Haha, good'un.

 

Of course, but against Frazier we actually saw what Bugner could of been...

 

And while not trying to be too cynical, I think that says it all about
Bugner's "lack of a left titty" deficiency!!

I'm a yank, I've never been to England but I could guarantee that ANY Cooper fight seen live over there was packed with excitement whomever came out on top unlike the usual Bugner "snoozefest"...

 

Bugner killed someone in the ring early in his career.

I think that can explain his mindset later in his career

 

Extremely tight fight,points wise. I still can't get over Harry Carpenter's shock and outrage. As if the decision was the robbery of the century. I've watched it a few times in the last year or so,and I score it for Bugner,but only just.

 

I can still remember the joke from the 1980's "What have Joe Bugner and Michael Jackson got in common ? They both wear gloves for no apparent reason"

 

i could probably still find the note-pad that my dad used to score this fight.he scored it a bugner win

 

Also his KO loss to johansson when he claimed that Ingo's people made sure Cooper was put in the corner facing the sun. Ive met him a few times in Hendon where he lived/lives and he came across as a nice fella, but he didnt do himself any favours with his bitterness towards the likes of harry gibbs, who, i think, gave the fight to bugner by 1/2 a pt.

 

saw this years ago i am pretty sure i had cooper winning but only by a couple of points

 

I watched the fight twice. The first time I had Bugner slightly ahead, the second time I had Cooper winning marginally. Yes, the bout was so close it could have gone either way.

The single most noteworthy element in the fight, I think, was Bugner's persistent left jab. The jabs didn't do any damage to Cooper, but the punches did connect. I'm inclined to think Bugner deserved the decision on this factor alone. If punchstats had been kept in 1971, Bugner probably would have had a higher number of total punches connected.

Many give the bout to Cooper, I guess, because of his ring generalship. Cooper's cocked left hand always posed a threat to Bugner, causing Bugner to backpedal or circle away to avoid being hit. Thus, the argument could be made that Cooper forced the action, and should have been considered the winner even though he didn't connect much against Bugner.

Incidentally, the London Times had Bugner winning the fight, too.

 

Cooper's win over Zora Foley was regarded as a robbery by many. As for Bugner, it's true that his biggest wins were against fading fighters. However, I question whether Cooper could have beaten the versions of Jimmy Ellis, Mac Foster, and Greg Page that Bugner conquered.

Also, there should be no doubt that Cooper could never have held his own against the likes of Ali, Frazier, and Lyle, as Bugner did. Ron Lyle and Joe Frazier especially would have destroyed Cooper.

I think Bugner's superiority over Cooper -- in terms of ability demonstrated throughout their respective careers -- is really a no-brainer. Bugner was better by a wide margin.

 

Watched it the night it happened and scored it for 'enry.

It was close, and I haven't seen it since.

(I have it ordered, and plan to watch it again, soon.


See link below.


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/boxing/article1070474.ece

 

Jim Wicks openly admitted he wanted no part of Frazier

 

After the fight Cooper mentioned to someone that he was struggling with the sun in his eyes. They replied "You mean Mrs Johansson's son?"

 

:good