How in the hell was Wlad not in his peak against Corrie Sanders?

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  1. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think this is a bull**** excuse put on by his fanatics.

    At the time, Wlad was 39-1 with 34 knockouts. A few fights ago, he came off what is arguably his best win against an old Mercer, and then a decision against McCline.

    He was at the point in his career where his athletic prime was perfectly complimented by his wealth of experience.

    He was at the peak of his career in this fight.

    He also had the courage and fortitude to fight to hurt his opponent and wasn't 100% focused on protecting his incredibly fragile chin. At this point in his career, many analysist predicted him to be the next dominant champ to reign after Lewis.

    If you watch this video, notice how fluid he looks in comparison to today.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqEANlBbhsA[/ame]

    He is also boxing intelligently with a smart gameplan.

    The fact is, he got beat at his best. He just didn't have the chin to deal with Sanders' punches.

    Today, his level of opposition has dropped off significantly. Yes, they have belts, but who did they beat?

    You can't tell me that Chamber's gameplan of standing right in front of Wlad, squared up, straight up and down, stationary, with his gloves in the air, occasionaly lunging with a weak right hand is an example of smart boxing tactics. I might be crazy, but he didn't exactly look like Jersey Joe Walcott in there.

    In fact he was amazing. Amazingly bad.

    Wlad's so called improvement is only a facade. The version that lost to Corrie Sanders would have hammered weak punching Chambers out in 6 rounds or less.
     
  2. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    He might've been physically, but he wasn't mentally. He hadn't learnt how to be comfortable in the ring, overcome fatigue, manage his movement and surppress his anxieties. He's much more of a ring general now, mentally tough and seasoned.

    Before he saw boxing as just a fight, now he see's the importance of strategy and fighting to your strengths.
     
  3. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're completely wrong, imo. The Wladimir today is miles ahead of the Wladimir of 2003...no doubt about it.

    Sure he was in great shape then. But he's in great shape now, and he has a better team around him (trainer, chef, etc...) than he did back then. His ring IQ is also MUCH higher now. As the poster above mentions, Wladimir now knows the importance of strategy.
     
  4. Brownies

    Brownies Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, I don't think he was prepared for this kind of oppoosition. Sometimes, a guy comes into the ring with only one gameplan : knocking the other guy's head in the first round. He may not be as good or as talented as the other boxer, but he doesn't care and he's going to rip his head's off anyway.

    Sanders was like that against Wlad and he clearly won. He was kinda like Hagler against Hearns haha, not as talented but with the same confidence.
     
  5. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How is his IQ MUCH better?

    His fighting style is A) fight a guy who can't move. B) Protect chin at all cost, by backing away in straight lines with head up in air where limited opponent cannot capitalize, and only utilize jab. C) Clinch whenever limited and slow opposition gets inside but remains clueless.

    Also, the media was 100% behind Wlad calling him the next coming, and HBO wouldn't dare not show his fights.

    Fast foward, Wlad is no longer as fluid and as fast as he once was, he's scared to let his hands go, and he is banned from both HBO and SHOWTIME.
     
  6. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought the site consensus was that Corrie Sanders was nothing but a fleshy African that should've stuck to golf and represented one of the bigger disgraces in Wlad's career?
     
  7. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    The two Peter figths are a perfect illustration of how much he has progressed.
     
  8. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    As they say, "Haters gonna hate". I know the 13 straight victories by Wladimir must really bother you at night. I doubt you get any sleep.
     
  9. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's much better, much more matured. His focus there wasn't close to what it is today.
     
  10. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Absolutely. The 2nd fight Peter was in BETTER shape than the first, with more experience, and Wladimir made it look so easy.
     
  11. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fact that he was put down 3 times by a "prime" Peter shows that if anything that his chin is terrible.

    Peter was just beat by overweight cruiser in Chambers for ****'s sake, who can't punch to save his life.

    Before that, he received the beating of his life by Vitali.

    And then you call a boring affair where Wlad was terrified to let his hands go until the 10th round progression?
     
  12. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pathetic.
     
  13. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's the truth.

    Just because you tell your girl that you have a big dick and tell her about how other girls said it was big, doesn't make the ruler lie.

    Fact is...

    You get it.
     
  14. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Bigger heavyweights notoriously hit their prime later in their careers. Lennox Lewis-Wladimir Klitschko-Vitali Klitschko... it held true for all of them.
     
  15. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If anyone is pathetic, it's Sam Peter.

    Why don't you tell me how many jabs this supposed master of boxing Sam Peter threw in his second fight against Wlad.

    9?

    :lol:

    I would expect these kinds of comments from you considering you don't know **** about boxing.