Tyson ducked: Foreman, Lewis

That article is bull****, not because I don't like what it has to say but because the evidence I presented from different published magazines clearly contradict that article which was written from a dubious source.

My evidence shows that timing, network disputes and promoter disputes played a factor in that fight not coming off. I have used different sources to prove that.

Your article is basically saying that Tyson was afraid of Foreman and as a result didn't want to fight him because he was afraid of losing even though he fought a more dangerous opponent Ruddock at a time where a fight could have potentially come off.

Your article never mentions that Foreman wanted Holyfield instead of Tyson because Evander had the titles and therefore a Tyson fight was no longer priority for Foreman until he had the chance to fight Evander.

It basically speculates, and the fact that the author is Frank Lotierzo who has been known to have written several anti-Tyson pieces in the past it becomes increasingly difficult to take his word for it. Frank doesn't like Mike Tyson and typically undermines him every chance he gets. So when he starts talking out of his ass about negotiations he had nothing to do with then you have to question its validity. Especially since the article went on to include the writer's opinions which incidentally did not favor Tyson.

However when you read articles that have impartial unbiased news that explain the situation and none of them indicated that Tyson was ducking Foreman and have contradicted what Frank has to say then I think given Frank's bias against Tyson its safe to say that they are a more accurate description of what really happened.

And lets say for the sake of discussion the article is true- considering how much money could have been made with a Tyson vs Foreman fight, why didn't Foreman's camp at that time shame Tyson publicly into fighting George by telling anyone who would listen that Mike Tyson is afraid. Why was it not common knowledge back then that the supposed truth was what Frank Lotierzo had to say?

You know why?

Because the negotiations fell apart because the terms couldn't be agreed upon.

 

Because:

1. The writer Frank Lotierzo never had a good word to say about Mike Tyson. He undermines him every chance he gets. Any article he's written that's involved Tyson finds a way to undermine Tyson.

2. The writer in that same article you are referencing used his opinions quite liberally; speculating that he thinks Tyson would have lost in "3 rounds." He never once mentioned that Foreman agreed to Don King's terms, he never talked about contract issues or network issues being cleared he just said King was trying to make the fight without referencing that King especially after the Douglas loss made every fight with options. This is why Holyfield switched from HBO to Showtime; his last fight on HBO before his Showtime stint was against Bobby Czyz and then for the Tyson fights because Don King he switched to Showtime.

3. The articles I've used have not favored either fighter but explained whats going on behind the scenes. They explained King wanted Evander to fight Mike 6 months after he won the title from Douglas. They explained how Foreman is reluctant to doing business with King and have basically responsibly reported the facts surrounding the issue. They have not thrown in their opinion about who would win, or shown either fighter any preference. As a result they are far more objective and far more credible.
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George Foreman was not the only one who called Tyson out, so did Mitch Green....Are you saying that Tyson is now ducking Green?

His commitment to the fans was blocked by the fact that George didn't want to do business with Don King and he couldn't agree to the terms.

Larry Holmes was the same age as Lennox Lewis who fought and beat Vitaly Klitschko. This Larry Holmes would 4 years later give Evander Holyfield a tougher fight than Foreman after legitimately earning his title shot by beating Ray Mercer in a lopsided decision.

Don King wanted the titles, when that wasn't immediately possible he examined it presented George's camp with an offer, they rejected the terms. So no George would not fight Mike any place or any time. He had an opportunity and turned it down.

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Lefthook is right,

I have presented to you in a respectful manner evidence that suggest that the reason why the fight never came off is because of the obvious contractual disputes that arise in a Don King negotiation.

I never asked you, nor did I start the thread on the premise that Tyson would have beaten Foreman; rather I started the thread to debunk the myth that Tyson ducked Foreman and presented evidence to prove it. The fact that you can't concede that its possible that the fight didn't come off because of a breakdown in negotiations then maybe I'm wasting my time.

It appears as though you don't want to believe what I've presented. You clearly hate Tyson and you've made it clear to everyone that you will smear Tyson every chance you get.

I don't see a point in going on really....


I've said my piece.