How Do You Rate Roy Jones Win Over Virgil Hill?

Props, man. Way to go back and give it another shot just for the heck of it, I really respect that. I don't score even, as I always see something somebody did alittle better, and gave 5 to DM. Otherwise, we have the same score. :good:good

 

What's the for???

Jones' resume was heaps better and deeper than Michalczewski's at Lt Heavy.Plus Jones beat each and every common opponent they faced in far more impressive and emphatic fashion.

**** me Dariusz couldn't even beat a "garbage man" Jones copped criticism for whipping.

You're really beginning to look like a tool with your over hyping of Michalczewski and down playing of Jones.

Agenda posting at it's most blatant.

 

When you want agenda posting look at Body Head´s. Yes, Jones´ is better than DM´s. But not by as much as you think. What I was laughing at? At the whole list, ´cause it´s really pathetic. Yes, Jones beat a man that beat DM but DM was as much past it as Jones was for Green. Hardly a win that should count for much. Or do you count Green´s over Jones? I don´t.
Most of the fighters they fought were the same. Jones fougth a few more since he had better longevity thus he ranks higher. But talking as if there would be much between is BS.

But yeah, when I point this out it´s agenda posting, when the TS states that DM-Hill should have been a draw or even Hill could have won it, it´s okay ... fanboy.

 

Virgil Hill was a good but limited fighter who ruled over a pathetic light heavyweight division ... Roy Jones was better but he was no great light heavyweight himself .. in their fight Jones was hitting Hill at will before the body shot that took him out .. it was a legit ko as anyone hit in that spot goes .. in the other nine out of ten if they fought Jones would have pounded out a one sided decision .. Hill could not deal with the speed.

 

:rofl:rofl

So in your opinion 35 year old undefeated Dariusz Michalczewski coming off a 14 fight KO streak is suddenly as faded as nearly 41 years old Roy Jones who'd been soundly beaten 4 times,brutally stopped twice and hadn't won a significent fight against a ranked fighter in 6 years???:nut

Michalczewski wasn't anywere near as faded as Jones was for the Green fight and to say otherwise is complete and utter bull**** and insulting to Julio Gonzalez and anyone with even a passing interest in boxing.

****ing hell by your standards DM should be considered as unbeaten then?


But thank you for proving my point about your obvious agenda posting again....fanboy.

 

Seen the fight? Compare what DM did to what DM did in his prime and you see the difference. You could see DM slipping the 1-2 years before. Harmon posed some problems for him ffs. Yes, the Jones of the Green fight was an exageration, if you would pay attention you would know I often do that to make a point. Yes, DM wasn´t as shot as Jones was against Green, he was done nevertheless.

But it´s like always once you critizise Jones his fanboys come out from their hiding places and call you a hater. :roll:

 

I won't dispute that DM was past it against Gonzalez as he definately was and I don't hold it too much against him but he was still a formidable fighter so I won't disregard the loss when judging him either.

Jones by contrast has been done and dusted as a fighter since at least the Glen Johnson fight in 2004 and I refuse to mark him harshly on losses subsequent to that.Likewise I don't judge Michalczweski on his loss to Tiozzo.

I don't think you're a Jones hater either (as I've seen you give him his dues before) but I do think you have a tendency to mark him harshly on what he didn't do instead of perhaps what he did do (which was considerable).

Yep I'm a massive Jones fan as he was far and away the best fighter in the sport during the 90's when I first got into boxing but I'm not a fanboy either.Whilst he's a H2H monster across 3 divisions he's also not unbeatable or even a p4p top 10 ATG like some true nuthuggers would have you believe.

I think you're a good poster Bohdi but I disagree with you when it comes to Roy.Not too much wrong with that though is there?

 

Michalczewski-Gonzalez is more comparable to Jones's similar downfall against Tarver and Johnson at the same ages.

 

Everything okay, I know I´m sometimes harsh on Roy but somebody has to balance out guys like PP or Body Head

Johnson, yeah, Tarver not so much. I don´t think Jones really declined much between Ruiz and Tarver II. Perhaps fighting Ruiz disguised his decline somewhat.

 

i disagree. i could tell jones wasn't the same after coming back down to 175. i always thought that jones would have lost in his first fight back from heavy if he would have fought a pressure fighter like johnson. jones got away with it vs tarver the first time because tarver chose not to move his hands and let an exhausted jones out hustle him.