If Jeffries had not retired ?

Had Jimmy Jeff remained active after 1904 and stayed in-shape, he'd still KO dude's like "Hart and Burns" with little to no trouble at all... Marvin and Tommy were NOT in Jimmy's class........ TRUTH!
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And Jim Corbett had little left after 1900 when he was getting beaten 2 X by Jimmy Jeff, as well.....

 

There are a few remarkable statistics:

Never defeated or knocked off his feet untill his last fight, despite being thrown in against the top contenders of the era from the opening gate.

Either of those two points would be remarkable in itself, but put together they are truly incredible.

Won the title from a strong champion with only a dozen or so profesional fights under his belt.

Defeated the three outstanding fighters in his weight class within a period of 12 months.

Defended the title seven times winning all but one by knockout.

These are some but not all of the reasons he was rated so highly in his own era.

 

Based on what? Quarry would be the best all round HW Jeffries ever faced. The best all round polished skills, fast, 1 of the biggest and he did really well against bigger slower heavy handed types. The 70s ruleset also is favourable to Quarry

 

Naw... Style-wise, I too, see Jimmy Jeff clobbering Jerry Quarry in a time machine..... Jeff is still bigger and stronger than Quarry.... Plus, Jeff was very athletic in his peak era..... Jeff wins over Quarry......

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Jeffries was a big man at a time when there just weren't many many big talented 200+lb heavyweights. Drop him in the 70's and he wouldn't be as awe inspiring as he was back in his own time. Plus the footage we do have of Jeffries in is prime is extremely poor and doesn't give us a really good look at his skills. We do know who he fought during that time and his opposition is somewhat lacking compared to Ali's at the same age. Tough guys no doubt but the sport was still developing and wasn't that far removed from the bare knuckle era. If Jeffries was to face the same fighters that Ali fought at the same age I don't see him winning the majority of those fights. I'm sure he'd be competitive and may take a couple but every one of his opponents would be true heavyweights and skilled to boot....No 167lbers here. Against Frazier he would be facing a 200lb man who kept coming and threw punch after punch for every round of a fight and was difficult to discourage and hit cleanly. Men like Foreman, Lyle and Norton would be the best combination of size and ability that Jeffries ever faced. These aren't super middleweights or marginal lightheavyweights here. Mind I'm not trying to diminish what Jeff did in his own time nor am I saying that he would have no chance against Ali's opponents but I think we need to put things in perspective here. We're asking Jeffries to defeat a group of HW's tthat competed in perhaps he most talent laden division in HW history. Jeffries would certainly be no pushover but to say that he would come out on top is a stretch in my opinion. It was Magoos post I believe that put this question in it's proper perspective and I agree with it.

 

The bit of footage we have is unclear..but if you watch with a careful eye you can see he is throwing combinations.

 

The hells named Jack Dempsey and Rocky Marciano?

 

Jimmy Jeff had little speed in 1910 at age 35, but was still rugged, tough and powerful.... Yes, by the time he got to Reno and was slimmed down to a respectable 227pounds, Ol' Jeff had left a lot of skills' back on his farm and training camp...

Judging Jimmy Jeff in 1910 against Jack Johnson is not really fair to Jeff's fans and followers...

I saw footage of Jimmy Jeff shadow boxing and moving around prior to 1905 and he looked very fit and spry.... That there is a more accurate account of what Jimmy Jeff was really able to do...

Jimmy Jeff somewhere near 6' 2" tall and 218 to 222 well tuned pounds prior to 1905 would prolly be too strong and powerful for the game 6' 198 pound Jerry Quarry in a time machine....

I'll take 1902 Jeff to stop 1969 Quarry via TKO in about 10 rds.... A great fight...

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I don't give a damn what many critics believe or think, I have said for years that Quarry would be stern fights for both "Dempsey and Marciano." I cannot go on record claiming he'd beat them dude's in a time machine, but Jerry Quarry would give both Jack and Rocky a run for the money...

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