Do you agree with this statement regarding Manny Pacquiao?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Raskolnikov, Nov 6, 2010.


  1. Raskolnikov

    Raskolnikov Guest

    From Sky Sports website, UK, comment from former world cruiserweight champion Glenn McCrory:


    It is hard to put Pacquiao's achievements into words. [Bruce] Lee transcends sport and culture alike and I think in years to come, Manny's name will do the same. Think of the great fighters down the years, Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Muhammad Ali and I do think when we look back on his achievements, Manny will sit alongside them.

    Remarkable

    I have been in this sport for more than 30 years and have marvelled at many fighters and their achievements, but when I think back over the past decade, that he started as a wild, crazy southpaw of a kid on the Las Vegas undercards, it is hard to think of anything more remarkable than what Pacquiao, together with Roach, has achieved.
     
  2. jonnytightlips

    jonnytightlips Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To a degree yes. Not sure about the Bruce Lee part.
     
  3. Lights Out

    Lights Out Active Member Full Member

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    The obvious critiscm of this statement is the quantity of fights. People like Archie Moore, Sugar Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong and the like all had 100 plus fights. There was one lineal undisputed title handed down by one great to another. What Pacquiao has done is no doubt extremely impressive but it is in a certain context which limits it to a degree. He has beaten legit legends in Morales, Barrera, Marquez IMO (and if Cotto keeps fighting for a few years he could be put in that bracket). Sugar Ray Robinson beat around 10 legit legends in his career. I could definatly place Pacquiao along the likes of Ali, Duran, Hagler etc but not the greats of the 1940's-1950's. The sport has changed a lot since then even in terms of number of rounds etc.

    What has impressed me is the stylistic changes Manny has made under Roach. He is such a versatile southpaw, he could beat anyone around his weightclass in history.
     
  4. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    He has Bruce's hairstyle & Poses down.
     
  5. haglerwon

    haglerwon Official GTMSBT Marquez Full Member

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    I'd put him in the SRL-type category (but, as highly as I rate SRL, I don't rate him as highly as a lot of other people do). I wouldn't put him in the SRR / Ali one.
     
  6. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-Qkab5817U[/ame]

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    :hey
     
  7. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What a joke.

    The only people he will be "great" to are people who don't know anything about boxing and the vampires that feed off of them.
     
  8. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    he won't reach an atmosphereic level like those guys mentioned above. the world is a lot bigger these days with globalization and the internet..which means he wasn't shoved in people's faces on a black and white television screen when it comes to popularity

    He's got the potential. He's definitely a once in a lifetime generation fighter. contrary to bald head slick's comments.
     
  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    but guys like Ali, Leonard, Marciano, Joe Louis... didn't have as many fights.
     
  10. gyll

    gyll Undetectable Full Member

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    I don't know. Time will tell, I guess. Lee and Ali had a larger than life personality. Pac seems to just smile and wave. He's doing things to expand his horizon but I tend to think he's a rather simple guy who just so happens to be a great boxer. I don't think we can start voting yet until his career is over.
     
  11. Lee was in movies, which is a popular medium for everyone. Ali had the Nam thing, which was a blessing in disguise because he became a national figure. Most chicks know the name Muhammad Ali, but most dudes AND chicks don't know the names Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao. Pacquiao is a politician now, but it's in a country that's not on the map with global affairs.

    Lee (cinema) / Ali (Vietnam War) > Pac (Boxing/Congress) / Floyd (Boxing)
     
  12. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    So 95% of all people involved in boxing don't know anything about it , but you and the small minority of racially motivated *****s do....
     
  13. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Well although you make sense, don't forget that Lee and Ali were both fluent in English and more educated than PAC. Pacquiao is going to do great things for his people.
     
  14. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac will be exposed eventually. Nothing stays buried.
     
  15. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    No. This one is more accurate


    "Manny Pacquiao is a cheating ***git"

    Floyd Mayweather snr