Jake LaMotta vs. Sugar Ray...

easy ud win for ray...

 

really i would love to know who was the ****ing idiot who did pick "leonard by ko"

leonard might no ko lamotta even with a shotgun

 

easy? i hope you are joking... lamotta was much stronger than duran at middle, and roberto(welter) did beat leonard, sugar was faster at welter. lamotta had better chin by a mile, x10 more durable and more stamina. lamotta would pressure during all the fight and more... and leonard did hit like a butterfly...

 

I have a hard time seeing that,,,stronger and harder hitting then Duran, non stop coming forward when he choose and behind a skilled jab for a short armed fighter, unless he was really tired able to block and make punches slide by and over twelve rounds,,,its not hard for me to seek Jake eeking one out. Many of us saw a lightly trained and much slower Benitez take Ray to the wire in their 15 round go.

 

Sugar Dec!!

 

I like LaMotta by KO. He is the bigger, stronger man. Leonard will elude him for a while with his cuteness, but the Raging Bull will keep coming and eventually get to him.

 

Jakes got a chance in a 15 rounder, but prime Leonard could circle just enough for 12 rounds and win a UD. As long as his ego dosent get in the way and tries to plant his feet and trade, then Jake may break a few of those ribs...

 

I think its a pick em over 15....I side ever so slightly with pre-retirement Leonard coming up whilst he was in his prime.

 

How many times out of ten?

 

leonard would outbox lamotta for a decision

 

Have people being watching too much of the movie 'Raging Bull'? How many elites did Lamotta actually KO?

Anyway Leonard UD, unlike Robinson Leonard at MW carried 160lbs rather than Robinsons often 143-145lb. This makes him better suited to take on and beat Lamotta than Robinson was in their early contests, which were closer.

 

Ray is not stopping Jake, but he was no butterfly 25 stoppages in 36 wins he hit hard, and was a ruthless finisher.

 

a butterfly ?? ask dave boy green.

 

This depends on what SRR is weighing, assuming Jake weighs circa 160.

It's worth remembering that as a welterweight, SRR had murders with Marcos Geraldo, SRR said it was up there with his toughest, physically demanding fights. La Motta was superior to Geraldo.

If SRR is weighing circa 147, I suspect Jake bulls his way to a close decision. If SRR weighs what he weighed for Kalule or up to about 157 (which is realistic I feel), SRR wins on points...but doesn't stop Jake, even over 15, like the original Sugarman was able to.