Rank today's heavyweight division...

is that a serious question? lol

 

Honestly I feel this division was stronger than the one Tyson ripped through in the mid 80s. But it is certainly weak. I mean the 3rd and 4th best Heavyweights are just bulked up Cruiserweights. The 5th best Heavyweight(Potvetkin) has just 20 fights. But the Division is rebuilding, in Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder we trust.

 

I think it is the worst. Aside from the top two guys (who won't fight each other) and maybe a certain former cruiser weight champ (who also won't fight the top 2) everyone else is just really awful. The level of skill is just terribly poor. There's no foot work, no strategy, poor conditioning, they are mostly really slow too. Old men and/or obese people are the norm rather then the exception.

 

:good i hear ya you got fat asses like Arreola who train on chips and beer and are allergic to roadwork, come in at 250-260, thats just Garbage, thats why Eastern Euros, Soviet bloc fighters dominate the sport, because they work hard and train, unlike pathetic lazy Americans...

 

id say average if that was an option. There has been much better and much worse.

 

Eliminate the Klitschkos and this would be one of the best of all time. VERY competitive amongst the rest of today's heavies. Everything is relative.

 

Poor.

 

I agree. I was around at that time, and the mid 80s division, when Holmes was on the downside and Tyson was just coming on the scene, is probably the worst in my lifetime. When you had guys like Greg Page, Michael Dokes, Tony Tubbs, Tony Tucker, Tim Witherspoon, and James Smith all trading titles that shows a far weaker division than one dominated by the Klitschkos.

As you get older, one of the things that's interesting to observe is how the crappiness of eras you grew up again gets glossed over so that people can ***** about their own era. Boxing fans seem to like nothing more than to ***** about how shitty the fighters of their era are! They even did it in the 60S and 70s!

 

:good

 

Klitschkos are so far above the rest today that it makes the entire division look bad, but many other eras have been much worse. There some good fighters today, but they just can't beat either Klitschko.

 

My answer is qualified.

There is a ton of talent. But the division. for all intesnive purposes, is effectively ****, for the following reasons:

The best don't fight each other
Four titles to choose from
Some of the most talented continue to come in as fat ****s
A lot of the best guys are two young to compete at the top right now
A streak of cowardice in a few guys at the top
The Klits are so good, that they stand head and shoulders above the rest.

I think, ironically, if you removed the Klits, the two best guys, the division would be aewsome and exciting with mega fights liike Adamek-Haye, Peter-Povetkin, Solis-Boytsov, with helenius, Pulev and Glazkov getting in after not too much longer.

 

The worst ever, its a pile of dog ****ing ****, full of hopeless bums And fatty bum-bums.

what was Wrongly said of Frazier by Cosell, Applies to WALDO -
"The heavyweight champion of the world, is teh heavyweight champion of nothing."

WALDO is the "world champion" of bloody BUMS And he hasnt even got VITLAY's or Haye's Belts lol. :rofl:


Foreman Hooooooooook!:hat

 

You can make a case you have two very good fighters (Klitschkos) instead of just one (Tyson, although Holmes was still doing well). Apart from that I do not see how the division could be stronger.

If we are considering the period between 1985 and 1990, you have fighters like Tyson (better than any of Klitschkos IMO, and surely more entertaining than both of them), Holmes (still not that far from his prime), young Holyfield (better than any of todays bulked up CW), comebacking Foreman (though not taken seriously yet), and a couple of still good and entertaining fighters, like (in no particular order) Witherspoon, Spinks, Cooney, Biggs, Douglas or Tubbs. Being in shape was a rule rather than exception like it is nowadays. The last (but not least) thing is that those guys were not afraid to fight each other.

For the record, I'm not rying to idealize this period as one may think after reading that far, and I know the overview I gave here is (over)simplified. I'm not going to into details to talk about Tubbs being almost as fat as Arreola, or about Witherspoon being really out of shape sometimes (although he at least had reason to).

The bottom line is that the current top5 consist of Klitschkos, Haye, Povetkin and Adamek. The number of fights between them is 0 (yes, zero) and no one knows when (and if) it changes. At the same time, titleholders are fighting opponents like Sosnowski, Briggs or Harrison.

Even with boxing losing its popularity as a sport, HW seems to be really low. In the early 90's, everyone knew who is Tyson, and his purses were higher than anyone else. Now if you are not a boxing fan (or German or Ukrainian) there is a good chance you know nothing about Klitschko. And brothers are getting roughly 10 mln $ for a fight, with Mayweather getting more than 2x more than that for past prime Mosley, and being offered even 4x more for Pacman.