Resumes: Lennox Lewis vs. George Foreman

I thicnk Lewis legacy is better. He beat to many good contenders and show only 1 weakness - chin. Foreman beat not many contenders and in his first boxing-life has 2 big flaws: he has not stamina and he was mentally vulnerable. So his losses to Ali and Young were produced by Foreman flaws not by any lucky occasions, as 2 losses of Lewis. Indeed Foreman never revenge his lossess cause he know - he cant do this. So I think Lewis is better both by accompishments and by head-to-head duels.

 

Spot on. In terms of resume Lewis wins this no probs. :good

 

Tho i rate Lewis ahead of George your bring up perfect points as to why Big George has to be rated highly irregardless of some shortcomings. Where one puts him in the 10 fluxuates via personal criteria, but he must be there.

 

Well, its depends on the styles. For examples small attacking boxers like Patterson, Frazier, Tyson lost their speed and health significantly faster than for example high boxers. Because small attackers very need to keep speed and their usually should to go through the punches cause the short arms matter. While Foreman at 70s had not many true battles where he took serious beating (only Lyle bout and maybe Ali bout), so I think if Foreman keep boxing after Young he NEVER could box even till 1985. IMO

 

foreman has better career and he would ko lewis, lennox was a great boxer, no doubt on it, but he didn´t have the chin to take foreman´s bombs, frank burno did hurt the best lewis, rahman and oliver knocked him out. jimmy young outboxed foreman but george was depressed when he faced young and lyle. jimmy young is seriously underrated and he was stolen against ali,shavers,norton. a prime mentally foreman 73-74 who did beat norton and frazier would ko lennox lewis for sure.

 

in a not h2h sense but resume wise, lewis wins this and it's by a lot

foreman:

frazier x 2
lyle
norton
moorer
qawi
cooney

loses:

holyfield
morrison
briggs
jimmy young
ali



lewis:

morrison
ruddock
mercer
vitali
rahman x 2
botha
mccall
tyson
bruno
briggs

loses:

mccall
rahman

foreman's top 2 beat lewis' top 2 but lennoxs resume is WAY deeper

 

you forgot chuvalo,chuck wepner(briggs is not better than him) and peralta(checks his record when he faced george)

being honest foreman was old and still he was competent against prime holyfield,prime morrison,prime moorer and he was stolen against briggs. a prime foreman would ko morrison in 2 rounds, he would tko evander and he would **** briggs.

lennox faced a past prime holyfield,prime evander90-91 would beat lewis.and vitali klitschko was winning on the cards , but yes this lewis wasn´t exactly in his prime

 

can't disagree for the most part but that's h2h/fantasy match up. foreman's resume, for an all time great heavy, is kind of shitty

the loses to young and ali in his PRIME go against him and almost wins, as good as they are, are still loses. he needed the right fighter in front of him to win. if the performances against holyfield and morrison are being used, then so can the beating he took to a blown up light heavy in moorer. i love big george but his comeback was sooooo calculated

FOREMAN HOOOOOOOOK

 

In ATG terms they both should be ranked closely, but i would have Lewis higher, because he had a better resume and i think head to head he would also have too much for George. Foreman had the better win in Frazier, but Lewis had more quality wins over a longer period.
Head to head i think a lot of people think that all George would have to do is land on Lennox and that would be it. I don't agree. No doubt George had the power to KO anyone, aswell has Lewis. But has already stated on here stylistically Lennox would be his worst nightmare, something George pointed out many times. Also Lewis's chin for me gets underated. Yes he was KOd twice, but those punches would have felled most and he was on his feet both times at the time of the stoppage. I think lack of focus were has much the cause of defeat has his lack of chin. He took a lot of good digs in his career too, and was hardly rocked. So a focused Lewis would have the fortitude to survive tough moments against George for me. I also think Lennox's actual physical strength is understimated, especially when compared against Foreman. This for me would be a telling factor in this head to head.
They are both two of the most dynamic heavies in history, and both rightfully deserve there place in anyones all time top ten list. But for me in terms resume, skill and the overall package, Lewis is the better man.

 

foreman would ko lewis. rahman and oliver could do it, and frank bruno did hurt him, foreman would ko lewis, lewis didn´t have the chin to take the foreman´s bombs but george had the chin to take the best shot from lewis. foreman by ko, no doubt. and george is above lewis in the history, of course

 

why? i don't take his place in history as a given by any means. lewis was a long time champ and pretty much cleared out the 90s division of heavies

foreman had 2 defenses in the 70s and lost...then lost to young and retired. his comeback was absolutely amazing but carefully constructed and his performance for 9.5 rounds against moorer and loses to morrison and holyfield do hurt him

an argument can be certainly made for lewis to be higher

 

1_ lewis would have lost in his second defense if he would have faced muhammad ali .prime foreman would have defended his belt during long time if he had fought against the bums who lewis faced(tyrell biggs, ,bruno,mccall,rahman,shannon briggs ( grandfather foreman did beat him really..)
2_when he fought lyle and young he was depressed.
3_he was old against prime morrison and prime holyfield. And still morrison ran during all the fight like a chicken, prime holyfield 90-91 would have beat lewis any day of the week.
4_old foreman was competent against prime holyfield and evander said " nobody did hit me like george did, not bowe,not tyson,not lewis,not bert cooper". Even tyson could not finish the fight against a past prime holyfield.
5_ george foreman was retired during 10 years and he was the champ again , ke knocked moorer out.
6_george foreman is the oldest hw champion in history.

George foreman is above lennox lewis absolutely

 

Faulting Foreman (or Liston) for a short title reign is silly for one very obvious reason.

These guys have such different strengths/weaknesses in their resume its hard to compare. Lewis has the reputation of having the strongest resume out there outside of the big two but I don't necessarily agree.

 

Lewis - BUT it v.CLOSE.
Foreman has teh Greater wins - BUT Lennox have more v.Good wins.


ATG Heavys

1 - Lennox
2 - Foreman [Old And young]
3 - Ali

Foreman Hooooook! :hat

 

i think that foreman is above lewis, he had better career and i think george would ko lewis, but ali???? are you drunk? ali is above foreman and lewis absolutely