Vitali talking about Haye

You're a ****. This all started cos you said Carl Thompson was a SMW. In fact he was a career CW and had been fighting at that weight for 13 years when he faced Haye.

If you understood how to score a fight you would never say Chagaev easily handled Valuev and Haye didn't. Haye never got hit, Chagaev got hit throughout. Haye fought smart, Chagaev stood in range and had to get hit to hit.

Haye is not scared. He wants the fight but won't give Wlad 50-50 when he brings a £15mn+ PPV and Wlad brings under £3mn in German TV money. Stop lying and bullshitting to build Wlad up. They would be fighting now if K2 didn't have a tiny joke contract with RTL.

Haye lost 6 years ago in his 10th pro fight but you all talk about it non-stop. Wlad lost in his prime after 43 fights but you all say he was young and inexperienced. You're all ****ing biased fan boys who are **** scared your man might get beat so have to discredit the one man that has a chance.

Haye pulled out of the Wlad fight cos Setanta went bust and he would have made £0 for the fight. He had no choice but to pullout or fight his biggest fight ever for free. You'd be an idiot to hold that against him.

Vitali agreed a deal with Haye, shook hands on it, and then had his advisors send over a deal with 2 rematch clauses and **** loads of options. K2 are known to be BS negotiators who have killed multiple fights with their bull**** contracts and ridiculous demands. They act like they own the division when in fact they generate less money than any other HW champs in history.

Ross Purrity was truly a bum. He lost 40% of his fights. He lost to some so much horrible oppostion he deserves no respect at all. He was a tomato can who blew away a young Wlad. Get over it.

Carl Thompson was a very solid CW. He had his first 9 fights at LHW over a 2 year period before having 31 fights as full blown CW. His 30th CW fight was against Haye. He was a similar sizer to Chagaev, Ibragimov and Brewster. He just wasn't fat. All those guys could make CW if they were in shape and cut. Wlad was brutally stopped by the latter, a small man by your standards.

Here is what I said about Wlad's defeats....

Purrity was a bad fight for him. Similar to Haye-Thompson.

Prime Wlad lost to Sanders, a guy similar size to Haye, with less hand-speed, worse movement and similar power. Wlad was prime physically and he did everything the same as he does now. He couldn't hang out his pawing jab cos Sanders was quick enough to come over it and when he got close he tried to clinch but Sanders was quick enough and big enough to punish him whenever he tried. Wlad of today has not improved as much as you all claim, his opposition has just been some combination of slow, weak, small and out-of-shape. Often all of those things.

Wlad lost to Brewster again in his prime. He showed that just like Haye, he has stamina issues. He also showed he is vunerable against a much smalller, slower, and weaker opponent than Haye. He will struggle with a guy who he can't clinch and lean on between bursts. Haye has great movement and enough handspeed to trouble Wlad. Wlad would still be favourite but Haye would have a very good chance. If you don't see that you're just refusing to see sense.

Haye has a similar or better record than all the HWs you mentioned and he has only had 3 fights at HW. Add in the fact that he was undisputed CW champ and you have a better resume than the likes of Chagaev, Ibragimov and Peter. Haye is no ATG but he is a better fighter than all those men. Any idiot can see that.

 

Haye has zero chance against Vitali, and only a punchers chance against Wlad.

In comparison, Wlad has masterful technique, more power, a better jab, a better right hand and a better hook.

Vitali is way too tough, has an awkward style, is too powerful and is extremely quick for a big guy.

Haye needs to direct his attention to the contenders and milk that belt for as long as he can. His next fights should be of the Chambers, Povetkin, Boystov, Hellenius, Adamek, Arreolla caliber... Unless he wants to end his paydays and global attention..then he should fight K2 and give Wlad his belt.

 

Fair play, Davo. Awesome post.

 

You still haven't post a link of the ufc being on germany ppv? lol. I try looking for it but what i found is ufc wants to have a fight in germany but it will be shown live on US ppv. Either i'm wrong or you're the idiot that makes things up trying to be a smart a$$.

 

Davo makes a lot of things up.

The only way I saw Davo's post, is because you quoted it, Davo is where he belongs: On my ignore list.

 

You're an idiot big time. First off moron do you even know what "prime" means? The Sanders fight Wlad didn't know how to clinch correctly. Whyelse Wlad hired Steward as his trainer? Cause Steward is great of training big fighters example Lennox Lewis. Brewster imo got a lucky break cause Wlad was easily and i mean easily beating Brewster up. After that for the past 7 years Wlad has been undefeated beating real good fighters mostly easily. For the past 6 years Wlad has defended that belt in which is why many here including me feels he's the real champ while Haye is a paper champion. Haye last 3 fights he fought 3 old fighters in their 30's in which Ruiz was freaking 38 years old.

 

on mine also:good

 

If Haye does not KO Audley in 1 round, he will be the laughing stock of boxing.

 

Valuev chased Haye around the ring all night and Haye could not handle his skills despite mocking them.

All of the British TV team had him losing save Darke.

 

He "will" be?

Hellooo???!

He has been quite awhile..

Seriously his fan base.atsch:rofl

haye and his Fans has No Honor What so ever.:deal

Had my Boxing Idol done what Haye has I wouldnt have nerves to show up here anymore let alone try to save my idol's face when he already is in urine down to his ear level.

It is pretty embarrassing reading Haye fanatics still saying how Haye gonna do this and that to Klitschkos... Haye fans..

 

How's Haye's resume is better than Chagaev? Chagaev beat younger versions of Valuev and Ruiz. Also, Chagaev is undefeated if you don't count his loss to Wlad who Haye has been ducking for at least 2 years now.

 

they need haye,surely u people can see that.all they taik about is haye.1st it was L.lewis now D. haye.if they beat haye they may think its lewis.the klit,s are desperate and worried about their legacy.[thompson,peter,briggs,rahman]jokers

 

Yeah Rachman sure is a joke he never beat anyone who was any good matter of fact he was never the undisputed champion at heavyweight or anything like that :rofl Man i must of been dreaming when he had Lewis sprawled over the canvas.....

Haye is nothing more then a hype job waiting to be exposed, Thats why he has exclusively fought 38+ year old has been fighters for what 3 years or so?

His best win is who valuev who needed the judges in his pockets to survive against a 45 year old holyfield a full year before the haye fight... Barrett, Ruiz, now Fraudley... Haye has yet to face a decent heavy in their prime. haye knows his shaky chin and **** defense means that a decent heavy with any kind of pop has a decent chance of taking him out. and is why he has exclusively fought old shot fighters for years..

They want haye because he has been a total ***** and made it personal with his classless trash talking the only difference is haye has shown that he has no balls and has shamelessly ducked several fights. :deal

 

To be fair if Haye fought any of the K brothers he would get KO, i would want Haye to win but he would have no chance. I dont think he has the power to Knock out Vitali, Lewis landed a couple of overhand rights on Vitali and he never went down and if the man can take a shot of Lewis im pretty sure he would be able to soak one of Hayes up the only thing going against Vitali is his age and is he past his best, maybe past his best but good enough for Haye.

 

This is further evidence of you being a ******. I googled the phrase "german ppv ufc" and this was the first result:

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Operation-Sauerkraut-UFC-Targets-Germany-8717

Read paragraph 7. PPV has been in Germany for 19 years.

Why could you not find this out on your own you ****ing ******ed ****.

I clearly explained in my last post why I consider Wlad prime in his last 2 most recent losses. All Wlad does differently now is face much worse opponents and lean on the smaller guys to tire them out. He also throws far fewer punches and clinches constantly to stop himself from gassing. In any other country than Germany he'd lose points for his illegal clinching and pawing jab.

Here are some more reasons why you're a dumb ****:

Wlad tried to clinch against Brewster and Sanders but got beat up.

Lennox never clinched like Wlad. Never. Lennox never fought scared, even when he was fat, 38 and taking flush shots from Vitali.

Wlad has not beaten a 'real good fighter' since being brutally stopped by Brewster. I would argue that he's never beaten a 'real good fighter'. Definitely not a prime 'real good fighter'.

Also, I never once said Haye has a better HW resume than Wlad. He clearly doesn't.

This guy Chef is a fat **** fan boy. He knows nothing about boxing and defends his man even more vehemently than the regular morons on here. The only loss to being ignored by that pudgy ***** is that I can't get his advice on how to make a ****ing sandwich.

It hurts me to disagree with you cos I love your threads (no homo).

By your logic Wlad must be the biggest laughing stock in history. All of his last 7 opponents should have been stopped early but he was too **** scared to let his hands go before they were totally gassed.

Do you honestly believe Wlad would KO Audley in 1 round?!?!? Even a horrible fighter like Audley would last 9 rounds vs Wlad. He'd lose them all but he'd never get blown away.

Chagaev has an awful resume. SD against Ruiz and close MD against Valuev. After that he beat nobody at all. Haye beat the same guys more convincingly plus he was undisputed cruiser champ. Monte Barret is better than anyone else Chagaev ever fought. Not a good resume at all.

Prime Rahman hit a poor Lewis with a big shot and then got brutally dismantled in the return. Wlad fought him 7 years later, after his second comeback. He was awfully ill-prepared and 20lbs heavier than when he beat Lewis. Why are you now pretending he was a quiality opponent for Wlad?!?!?

Haye talks a lot of trash but so does Wlad. Wlad has always tried to be a trash talker, the only difference is nobody listens.

The way K2 have destroyed the division with their slave contracts and BS negotiating is far more disgraceful. The only guys that will agree to fight them are poor fighters who have no negotiating leverage and are desperate for a shot they don't deserve. The only fights that have any merits for K2 in the past 5 years have been Valuev and Haye, and they negotiated their way out of both.

The Vitali that fought Lewis is not the same Vitali we see today. As I said in my very first post, prime Vitali was a beast and he would have destroyed Haye. Current Vitali is far less mobile, has average power and has not fought a live opponent since he returned to the sport.

As I have said many times, If Haye does not gas he has a good chance to beat both Klits. The Klits would be favourites but to say Haye has no chance is just fanboy bull****. Haye would be the best Wlad has ever faced (yes, better than 36 yo Chris Byrd) and a massive step up for both Klits when looking at their recent opponents.