JuanMa trying for a fight against Chris John, gets denied.

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  1. brickfists

    brickfists The Nonpareil Full Member

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    i am being unbiased unlike you. and i act like he's faced a collection of bums because he has mtagwa, lontchi, medina, luevano, penalosa these were hardly elite top p4p competition were they ? cabalerro is a much better fighter than any of those guys so why fight them not him ? there must be a reason and it cant be money cause none of thos guys bring in more than caba would
     
  2. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    If Lopez is scared to fight Caballero then the same can be said about Gamboa. But look if anybody got a f4cking brain they will know Lopez ducks no fighter. He doesn't have a control on he fights. <<<It's Arum you idiots. If this is the case then Cotto was ducking to fight Williams since Williams called him out after he beat Margarito right??? <<<See how dumb this is? The reason Cotto vs Williams didn't happen cause of Arum.
     
  3. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    Small=weight, he was moving up in weight from 118-122, that has been his fighting weight all his life, and no he is 5'5" and Lopez is 5'7", which doesn't mean nothing, Caballero is like 5'11" and he is been fighting at 122lbs.
     
  4. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    At the end, the boxer is the one that decide, I know boxers that had told their promoters who they want, if Juanma wants caballero, beleive me, he would get it. Hopkins was his own man, just like ODLH, and there a few more, Griffin, Napoles etc..
     
  5. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

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    Out of every excuse in the world this is the one I hate the most.

    Unless the boxer in question is a complete ball-less *****, in the end he decides who he wants to fight. NOT the promoter, unless the boxer is the promoters lap dog, the BOXER.

    If JuanMa really wanted to fight Caballero he would have done it back when Caballero called him out at Super Bantamweight.
     
  6. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    So Cotto is scared to fight Williams? So since Mosley is scared to fight Williams? So Pacquiao was scared to fight Soto back when Pac fought at 130 pounds? <<This was after Soto ko Pacquiao little brother. I mean seriously it shows that the fighter isn't the one to decide. This is why boxing has promoters.
     
  7. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Ok so Cotto is scared to fight Williams when Williams called him out after he beat Margarito? So Pacquiao is scared to fight Soto when Pacquiao back then was a junior lightweight? <<Pac said he wants to fight Soto after what Soto did Pac little brother. But why didn't Pacquiao back up his talk? Hmmm. What about Guzman back at 130 pounds after he beat Soto. He called out Pacquiao but Pac didn't respond. Hmmm. <<<All of this shows it's not the fighters decides who he wants the fight. It's the promoters.
     
  8. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

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    I've said this before and I'll say it again.

    If a boxer TRULY wants to fight someone, he will make it happen regardless of what his promoter says.

    If Cotto really wanted to fight Williams, he would have already fought Williams. If Pac really wanted to fight Soto, he would have fought Soto. If Mayweather really wanted to fight Pac, he would be fighting Pac instead of Pac fighting Margarito.

    At the end of the day if the boxer wants it so bad they can say "make the fight or go **** yourself and I'll find someone else who will".
     
  9. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    It's so sensible I assume it won't happen.
     
  10. fatdrunkenslob

    fatdrunkenslob Well-Known Member Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTeRdMYPUK0[/ame]

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  11. YOUNG*LORD

    YOUNG*LORD Carlosv1968 is your daddy Full Member

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    I wouldnt give Caballero a shot until he fights Gamboa....Gamboa is the bigger challenge anyway. I would make Caballero sweat for talking ****. Some of you guys are ****ing idiots...Juanma is certainly not afraid of Caballero...Why would anyone assume Juanma is afraid, when gamboa is faster, stronger and better all around skills than Caballero...yet that's the fight Juanma been asking for.
     
  12. puertorricane

    puertorricane Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Caballeros' last fights vs jordan, leal and mathebula were on a highschool gym and shown on PBS.. that's why he hates juanma because juanma is making money and in the bigtime while he's stuck in the minors fighting for peanuts and crying to get a break.. if he wouldve gone about it a different way maybe he would had his chance already

    :hat
     
  13. mryeags

    mryeags Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because the money isnt there !!! ....why take a risky fight for little return when he could sit tight and wait for gamboa or john which will be big box office ...

    Bit of a no brainer to me !
     
  14. mryeags

    mryeags Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good post ! ...Juanma will prove he is the top fighter in the division ... :good
     
  15. Kid Cubano

    Kid Cubano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i think juanma takes Caballero and beat him in 8 rds
    but i dont think arum wants to take that chance and spoil a showdown w Gamboa