Valuev would not fight a Vitali on RTL for the money offered. That's very different to refusing to fight them dip ****. Did Wlad ever even try and negotiate with him? huh? what? They send out one BS offer that they know will be rejected and then insist they're being ducked. It's a ***** move and they're using it to kill the division. Pathetic. The argument was whether or not PPV exists in Germany, and it has for 19 years. Also, WLAD SIGNED THAT SMALL FLAT-RATE CONTRACT. If he is a megastar, why does he not agree his TV rights on a per-fight basis like every other star boxer on the planet?!?!? He is tied down cos he is commercial garbage and had to take what he could get. 3.5mn Euro a fight is a ****ing joke and it shows how little value Wlad has even in his spiritual home of Germany. So you were shown to be completely wrong with evidence over multiple points and yet you claim to still be right. You are either a young child or mentally disabled. Either way I feel bad expoising you at this point. This is amongst the dumbest things you've written, and there have been many. You don't have to stand and trade to out-point your opponent. Only with Valuev did Haye run and that was the only way to hit the 7ft2 man and not get hit. Again, when you say this **** it just shows you know nothing about boxing and in particular have no idea how to score a fight. Wlad never 'stands and trades' and he's 6ft7. He paws his illegal left hand, leans-on and clinches illegally whenever his man is in range and tries to pop shot his way to a very late stoppage against fat small bums who have nothing left in the tank. Please try and think before you write things that are damning to the man you're trying to defend. The reason I mentioned his CW record is cos one of your fanatic running mates said Chagaev has a better resume than Haye. I pointed out that outside of his SD and MD marquee wins he has nothing at all to compare to an undisputed CW champ. I'm sorry you're too blinded by man-love to see that. In general you all need to just stop the Bull****. In my very first post I said Haye will never be favourite but has a good shot at a Klit if he doesn't gas, otherwise he gets brutally KO'd. You all then flipped out like a pack of rabid whores. The mere idea that your heroes may lose again is so painful to you bitches that you have to fight it by any means. You are clearly all trying to convince yourselves far more than me. It's hillarious!
What are you guys blabbering about, haye lost to valuev. its just that we were all so sick of that featherfisted freak show that we turned a blind eye.
I'm sorry but you're a moron. Please read this before you post again: http://www.suite101.com/content/how-to-score-a-professional-boxing-match-a62618 Now explain how you managed to score 7 rounds for Valuev.
If i were Vitali or Wlad that result would worry me more then slaughtering Ruiz and Barrett as it showed that Haye can stick to a game plan and box smart
So we are in agreement that Haye is nothing more than blown up CW. His resume as heavyweight is sh*t. He should have stayed in CW where he was a contender. Haye-heavyweight is a hype job waiting to be exposed. He will never fight Klitschkos because that will expose him as a fraud.
When you say blown up CW, are you saying he could actually make CW again? Plus, Haye was a unified champion at CW, not a contender.
That Truely is a hater if someone says haye lost to Valuev i swear to god. Haye won nearly every round. The problem was just valuev couldnt him him or Throw punches and Haye didnt want to Throw punches.. Hard to Watch and to score. but Haye was the only one who hit the target when those minor punches there were Thrown at that Fight.
I never said Haye had a great resume. YOU said Chagaev had a better one and I pointed out that he absolutley does not. Haye is not a blown up CW, he just isn't fat. He's a naturally bigger man than Lamon Brewster and Chris Byrd. One of those brutally stopped Wlad and the other is his marquee win. I also believe Haye is a better fighter than both were when they fought Wlad. He will fight a Klit when they can either bring as much money to the fight as he does or agree to take a split that reflects their awful earning power. If Wlad agreed to take the German money and let Haye keep the UK money the fight would be happening already. Strange of you all to call that fear. Who are you trying to convince?
Funny stuff. Chageav beat Valuev in style, Haye run away for the entirety of the fight. Haye's level of opponent at heavy has done nothing to indicate that he is better than any of the aforementioned fighters. He is more physically gifted, but he is a glass canon.
Standing in range and getting hit in the face is not style. He won a much closer decision than Haye. Haye's level of opponent has been exactly the same as Chagaev, yet he beat them in much better style. He is also bigger, faster, harder hitting and more elusive. The only thing they have on him is punch resistance. How is your comment even slightly accurate? I agree Haye has a glass jaw but so does Wlad.