toughest fighter ever.....

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  1. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nice to hear from you again on ESB :goodb.b.
     
  2. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    Kid Gavilan anyone?
     
  3. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Many names come to mind. Ali,Greb,Hagler,Foreman,Frazier,La Motta,Graziano. The list is endless.
     
  4. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've never bought into this "Foreman was scared of Quarry" myth. Anyone that is willing to take on Joe Frazier,Ken Norton and Muhammad Ali,had no reason to be scared of Jerry. Quarry would have got slaughtered if they'd have fought.
     
  5. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it was a rumour going round at the time.he may have actually said that he'd rather not fight quarry, which isn't the same as being scared.
     
  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True. George was also quoted as saying that he felt intimidated by Ken Norton. He did n't do too badly against him though :lol:
     
  7. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :goodi know, he said his knees were knocking.how would george have done with a bit more confidence:think
     
  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah. Frightening ! :lol:
     
  9. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    its difficult to associate the 1973 frightening george with the later cuddly version who was only doing it for the church
     
  10. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    It wasnt a rumor George has admitted ducking Quarry several times. On his old website he had Quarry listed as the fighter he feared most while in his prime and in several documentaries he has admitted to flat out ducking Quarry. When they both worked out in the gyms in California George wouldnt even spar with Quarry because Quarry had a great chin, could punch, and most importantly (when his head was right) was a terrific counterpuncher, Foreman and his management knew that stylistically these three things would pose problems for Foreman.
     
  11. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    Go to 1:40 and watch...


    [url]www.youtube.com/v/AsXk1d095V8&hl=en[/url]
     
  12. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    During his post fight interviews during this era, George was always hesitant and evasive when asked if Jerry would be his next opponent, a stark contrast to Liston's expressed enthusiasm for taking on JQ following Sonny's stoppage of Henry Clark. The bottom line is that George did not fight Jerry, did not defend the title against him, despite the fact that Quarry's enormous popularity guaranteed a huge payday. Foreman was a huge puncher. So were Mac Foster, Lyle and Shavers. George had sparred with Jerry. He says today that he purposely avoided JQ. Taking into account things he said and did at the time, this seems like more than mere charitable revisionism. Styles make fights. Jerry didn't handle speed or attrition well. Big power hitters were a different story. He knew how to handle reputable sluggers just as Young later did.

    Foreman was an intimidator who had no hope of intimidating Jerry after sparring with him. Nor could he surprise and ambush JQ as he did Frazier in lifting the title. George didn't want Jerry any more than Tyson later wanted Foreman. Forget the words. What actually did and didn't take place? Coming out of 1973, Jerry had clearly earned a title shot. George certainly breathed a sigh of relief after Frazier dominated Quarry a second time.
     
  13. Foreman Hook

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    Truth :thumbsup

    Foreman was at his BEST in them 2 fights when he felt intimidated - He said on ESB interview he was scared of Frazier as-well. :rofl


    Foreman Hoooook! :hat
     
  14. jaffay

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    Jack Johnson
    Mickey Walker
    Jake LaMotta
    Vito Antuofermo
    George Chuvalo
    Rocky Marciano
    Joe Frazier
    Muhammad Ali
    Evander Holyfield
    Joe Jeanette
    Sam Langford
     
  15. janitor

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    Billy Conn deserves aq mention.