Yes. The number of victories would stay about the same no matter how many times they did it. Holy 10 out of 10, every time.
Haye has achieved all he could at CW but still the Holyfield of that weight beats him anyways. Haye has work to do at heavyweight at the moment but he's wasting his time taking on Audley & fighting once a year.
just wondering. to those who thinks todays holyfield beats haye, would you actually give haye credit for ktfo of holyfield today.
No, Holyfield has been a shot fighter since 2000, when he was awarded a dubious decision against Ruiz. Any H2H greatness left within Old Holyfield was expended in the Lewis rematch, 11 years ago.
thats how i see it. but some people apparently think holyfield now has enough to beat haye. deluded haye nuthuggers if you ask me. just trying to hype the fight up incase their hero does fight shot holy.
Holy is beyond shot-to-****, i'd hate to see the result if he fought an aggressive quality puncher in Haye, as Evander is one of my favourites & wish I he had retired after putting up a respectable competitive effort in his rematch with Lennox.
i know because of his centre of gravity i could imagine him taking a **** load of punishment before the ref waves it off. he should have called it quits after stopping tyson. he'd have gone down as a legend.
I hate to say but that fight might happen and I even think Holyfield said he's interested in fighting Haye. Hope that fight doesn't happen in real life. Holyfield is one of my favs too and I agree with what everything you said. Holyfield fought other fighters I'm also a fan of(Toney, Tyson, Holmes, Qawi).
I agree, personally I don't like to hold losses while shot against fighters, but I understand most people do. An alarming amount of members here rate Holyfield outside the top 10 for Heavyweight greatness, I have him at #6 & I think a great deal more people would rank him that highly if he'd hung-up his gloves after his legendary upset stoppage of Tyson in '96.
If that's the case, then I pray for a premature referee stoppage. :verysad Thanks, funnily enough i'm a fan of Toney, Tyson, Holmes & Qawi too. :good
its true, loads of hold them against shot fighters. imagine if leonard had stayed retired after beating hagler. if jones would have retired after beating tarver. and yes, if holyfield would have retired after beating tyson. but fighting on a further 14 years he became a stepping stone. lewis, byrd, toney, ruiz all used holyfield to step up to the next level.
On topic: Haye would literally find it impossible to stop or decision Holyfield. Absolute Peak Holyfield from the '87 Qawi rematch obliterates Haye in 2 or 3 brutal rounds, using his vicious combinations.
Indeed & Tyson is constantly derided here for losing to Williams & McBride, despite being a shot-to-****, fat old zombie at the time.