ESB Top 20 (Prelims)

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Muhammad 'The Greatest' Ali

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Joe 'The Brown Bromber' Louis

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Larry 'The Easton Assassin' Holmes

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Charles 'Sonny' Liston

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Lennox 'The Lion' Lewis

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'Big' George Foreman

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'Smokin' Joe Frazier

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Rocky 'The Brockton Blockbuster' Marciano

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Jack 'The Galveston Giant' Johnson

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Jim 'The Boilermaker' Jeffries

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Jack 'The Manassa Mauler' Dempsey

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Evander 'Real Deal' Holyfield

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Harry 'The Black Panther' Wills

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'Iron' Mike Tyson

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Jersey Joe Walcott.

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Floyd Patterson

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Max 'Black Uhlan Of The Rhine' Schmeling

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'Dr Steelhammer' Wladimir Klitschko

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Peter 'The Black Prince' Jackson

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Ezzard 'The Cincinnati Cobra' Charles

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Sam 'The Boston Tar Baby' Langford

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Riddick 'Big Daddy' Bowe

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Gene 'The Fighting Marine' Tunney

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Jack 'The Boston Gob' Sharkey

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Max 'The Livermore Larupper' Baer

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Joe Jeannette

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'Gentleman Jim' James Corbett

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Ingemar 'Ingo' Johansson

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Ken Norton

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'Terrible' Tim Witherspoon

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I tried to form some sort of order, but I drafted this up in about 10 minutes so it's very rough around the edges and it probably needs brushing up at some point. Honourable mentions to Vitali Klitschko, Jimmy Young, Bob Fitzsimmons, John L Sullivan, Sam McVea, Archie Moore & Jerry Quarry.

 

1.Ali
2.Lewis
3. Louis
4. Marciano
5. Foreman
6. Holyfield
7. Holems
8. Tyson
9. Frazier
10. Liston
11. Patterson
12. Norton
13. Bowe
14. Walcott
15. Charles
16. Jeffries
17. Johnson
18. Dempsey
19. Wlad
20. Vit
21. Schmeling
22. JLS
23. Langford
24. Fitz
25. Moore
26. Wills
27. Tunney
28. Ellis
29. Roy Jones Jr
30. SNV:smoke:smoke

No order

 

Muhammad Ali
Joe Louis
Jack Johnson
George Foreman
Jack Dempsey
Gene Tunney
Mike Tyson
Evander Holyfield
Lennox Lewis
Rocky Marciano
Jersey Joe Walcott
Joe Frazier
Larry Holmes
Sonny Liston
Jim Jeffries
Max Schmeling
Harry Wills
Sam McVey
Ezzard Charles
Sam Langford
Riddick Bowe
Floyd Patterson
Joe Jeanette
Ingemar Johansson
Earnie Shavers
Max Baer
Ken Norton
Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Chris Byrd

Honourable mentions to Fitz, Jack Sharkey, David Tua, Cleveland Williams, Peter Jackson, Tommy Farr.....

 

I take that back actually, i'm positive you will. Just remembered the Jack Johnson video, that was epic

 

01. Joe Louis
02. Muhammad Ali

03. Rocky Marciano
04. Larry Holmes
05. Jack Johnson

06. George Foreman
07. Joe Frazier
08. Lennox Lewis

09. Evander Holyfield
10. Sonny Liston

11. Jack Dempsey
12. Jim Jeffries
13. Mike Tyson

14. Floyd Patterson
15. Max schmeling
16. Harry Wills

17. Wlad Klitschko

18. Jersey Joe Walcott
19. Ezzard Charles

20. Peter Jackson
21. Jim Corbett
22. Sam Langford

23. Riddick Bowe
24. Vitali Klitschko

25. Joe Jeanette
26. Gene Tunney

27. John Sullivan
28. Sam McVey

29. Jack Sharkey
30. Max Baer

Outside: Norton/Moore/Fitzsimmons/Quarry/Ray

Did not even warrant consideration: Tua/Ibeabucchi/SNV

 

One interesting talking point might be the fighters who made the 20-30 slots on peoples lists.

I expect them to be more diverse and thought provoking than the fighters who made the 1-20 slots.

 

You mean like Roy Jones Jr.? :rofl

 

This is a bad pick, but I would be interested to hear the argument for this choice and many others.

Some would turn out to be bad picks, and others would turn out to be surprisingly plausible on closer inspection.

 

I agree. I have Harold Johnson in there, I took a deeper look into his hw resume and it´s better and deeper as that of many career hws who are certain picks for most like Vitali Klitschko, Ernie Shavers or even Gentleman Jim.

I also guess that some will have the same problem tommygunn described in this thread:

 

It get's real tricky even after number 15 for me personally. The 20-30 slots are a real struggle. Particularly without any feedback (hint hint )

 

Joe Louis
Muhammad Ali

Jack Johnson
Rocky Marciano
Larry Holmes

Mike Tyson
Lennox Lewis
Joe Frazier
George Foreman

Evander Holyfield
Jack Dempsey
Sonny Liston
Jim Jeffries

Ezzard Charles
Joe Walcott
Harry Wills
Floyd Patterson
Jim Corbett
Sam Langford

Jim Sullivan
Sam Mcvey
Joe Jeanette
Max Schemling
Gene Tunney

Wlad Klitschko
Max Baer
Peter Jackson
Jack Sharkey
Vitaly Klitschko

 

Here's a guy that's bound to be forgot: Jimmy Bivins. A better resume than many Heavyweight Champions despite never getting a crack at the title himself. A top contender for many years and a dangerous gate keeper at the end of his career, pulling off several upsets.

Mike DeJohn
Coley Wallace
Clarence Henry
Pat Valentino
Turkey Thompson
Lee Q Murray X3
Curtis Sheppard x4
Oakland Billy Smith
Archie Moore
Tami Mauriello
Bob Pastor
Lee Savold
Joey Maxim

and I'm sure I forgot some

 

That is an interesting pick.

Harold Johnson did better against some common oponents at heavyweight, than Ali and Liston.

There is a little more to him than meets the eye.