ESB Top 20 (Prelims)

So, what you are saying you base his ranking on him beating one of the worse alphabet belt holders and speculation. Well, of course you can do so but if you do you must also live with me critizising it.

 

Here's my list (in no particular order)

1. Louis
2. Ali
3. Holmes
4. Marciano
5. Lewis
6. Johnson
7. Dempsey
8. Foreman
9. Frazier
10. Tyson
11. Holyfield
12. Bowe
13. Wladimir Klitschko
14. Tunney
15. Charles
16. Sullivan
17. Peter Jackson
18. Harry Wills
19. Max Schmeling
20. Ken Norton
21. Vitali Klitschko
22. Max Baer
23. Floyd Patterson
24. Sonny Liston
25. Corbett
26. Jeffries
27. Michael Spinks
28. Braddock
29. Sharkey
30. Fitzsimmons

I have no confidence in putting some of the names in the list. Its just that I can't think of better ones to put in the list.

 

(Not ordered)

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Marciano
4. Holmes
5. Holyfield
6. Lewis
7. Johansson
8. Tyson
9. Foreman
10. Frazier
11. Liston
12. Johnson
13. Jeffries
14. Patterson
15. Dempsey
16. Langford
17. Joe Walcott
18. Max Baer
19. Ezzard Charles
20. Wladimir Klitschko
21. Schmeling
22. Sullivan
23. Jackson
24. Fitzsimmons
25. Michael Spinks
25. Tunney
26. Moore
27. Douglas
28. Bowe
29. Norton
30. Witherspoon

HM - Greb, Braddock, McVey, Sharkey, Wills, Quarry, Ray, Burns, Gunboat Smith, Corbett, Bruno, Tucker, Vitali.


Edit: "Holmes 2" replaced by Johansson.

 

I thought i would throw in a bit of H2H , i thought i would use greatness too though that how some of the little guys who rode to work on dinosaurs got in there.

 

Not really. Guys like Fitz, Moore, Greb and so on are in there because they have the resume and/or achievements for it. Jones was a great fighter but ranking him as a Top30 at hw based on one fight? Sorry, buddy, that´s reaching too far. The divsision has 130 years of history with thousands of fighters competing, do you really think one win over an average guy is good enough to be amongst the best ever there?

 

Tom Sharkey or Jack Sharkey ???

 

jack johnson
ali
joe frazier
joe louis
jack dempsey
gene tunney
rocky marciano
lennox lewis
evander holyfield
vitali klit
george foreman
larry holmes
bob fitzsimons
sonny liston
jim jeffries
max shmeling
ezzard charles
mike tyson
peter jackson
harry wills
joe walcott
floyd patterson
john l sullivan
archie moore
jack sharkey
james corbett
joe jeanette
riddick bowe
wlad klit
ken norton

 

Jack'The Boston Gob'Sharkey.


Could you explain your odd choice of Chris Byrd please?

 

Byrd has a better body of work than Douglas or Spinks who are on your list.

 

Well, he was one of the best defensive heavyweights of all time, he beat some good opponents, including Holyfield ( Holy was past his prime, yes)....but, i think Byrd deserves credit for always fought at a huge size and weight disadvantage....

Excuse me my english is not very good ...

 

Why is Holmes so good that he gets two places on the list?

 

Is that rhetorical because it would seem that i do , wouldnt it?

 

no special order :

ali
holmes
louis
lewis
liston
foreman
frazier
tyson
dempsey
marciano
charles
patterson
bowe
holyfield
max baer
norton
johnson
jeffries
schmeling
walcott
archie moore
wlad klitschko
gene tunney
bob fitzsimmons
shavers
quarry
langford

 

Probably because i copied Muchmoore's list & then fiddled around with it, since i didn't feel like typing out all the names.

Now i'll have to decide who to include, to replace "Holmes 2".

 

trevor berbick! least we can do for him after that dropkick