Haye Can't Lead, Therefore He Can't Beat Wlad

You can't counter-punch Wlad or you'll get ****ed up. Haye did not impress. Yes, he has power, and yes he has speed. Audley is a big tall HW with a really long reach and he was fighting very negative. However, Haye would get inside and just back out. He has ZERO inside game. I mean zero inside game. If he fought on the inside Audley would have ZERO chance because when you smother a guy with 86 inch reach he can't punch you back with power and extension.

And it's not just countering. Haye just can't lead well as we saw here. Wlad is millions better than Audley.

I know, Haye ****ed up Fraudley in the 3rd but that's not the point.

I know Haye "never" fought inside but he needs to add this dimension at HW. He can get inside but he doesn't ****ing do anything but back out. Bring those body punches in and you can get Audley to cover down and then go back up top. It's really that simple.

Haye better go after Vitali because he's aging and his reflexes are dwindling. Haye will have a chance to counter-punch and blitz Vitali I think. Against Wlad he has to storm in and blitz him early otherwise he has next to zero chance. You just can't counter-punch Wlad.

I'd say Haye chances against Wlad are 1 or 2 out of 10 but against Vitali he might be able to win 3-5 times out of 10.

 

Exactly. Haye likes to set traps and against Wlad that will be difficult. Wlad doesn't give anything away, he just doesn't take chances and he'll manage jabbing Haye's head off. Against Vitali, he'll be able to set traps and counter because Vitali is aging and Vitali is just more active of a fighter. Wlad won't give much of an opportunity so Haye will have to try blitzing him.

This is interesting, at least show Haye is aware and smart. Unfortunately he has zero inside game and can't fight anything like Tyson. He just can't move his head and explode like that. It's not how he fights, even if he tries to train like that he won't be able to fight like that. He needs to be aggressive, try feinting, double jabbing and then working the body. It's not hard to make Wlad flinch, or back up. If Haye jabs in he could make Wlad nervous. He needs to add that inside dimension. If Wlad over-clinches it should cost him unless they fight in Germany where Wlad can basically do whatever he wants.

 

Come on Jack. He couldn't against Valuev, didn't against Ruiz, nor did he do it in his CW days. I'm not just judging him on this fight, but this just confirmed it. I know there's feeling a fight out and maybe Haye did have a bet on the third round but that doesn't mean you go so negative. Haye basically finished a guy that was just covering up.

Haye sets traps and likes to counter. He has always liked doing that. He won't be able to lead against Wlad who's 1000 times better because he doesn't do that and doesn't like to and has zero dimension to his game. He can't counter Wlad because that's suicide.

 

Perhaps, but he was overly negative so I don't completely buy this. The crowd was booing it was that bad. He couldn't have been that worried to get the early KO. But I'm telling you guys now Haye doesn't like leading and likes settings traps to counter. Against Wlad he's going to be out of his element and have tons of trouble. He needs to go after Vitali that's his best chance against the K brothers, no doubt.

 

I wasn't just going by this fight. It confirmed the thinking. Even if he wasn't "going for it" till round 3. There were times when Haye was unsure to move forward or let Audley lead. Audley's over-cautiousness actually showed Haye trying to set-up, rather than be able to create.

You have to fancy his chances against Vitali more, no?