Prime Joe Louis Beats Rocky Marciano --- Convince Me

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  1. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    louis would take marciano apart.
    a 100% fit and healthy louis would grind rocky's face to a pulp with his jab and could ko rocky with either hand.only rockys heart would keep him in this.
    the boxing writers in the 50's during rocky's title reign didn't rate him as an all time great, so why now ??
     
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  2. Mendoza

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    Louis had all sorts of trouble vs. Godoy, and if you watch the film from the first fight, Godoy seems to get the better of it. Louis himself said he did not think he could beat Marciano after Marciano Ko'd him, because his weakness was being crowded. Louis also tended to adapt slowly in fights, and often needed Blackburn's coaching in a camp to perform better in a re-match. A prime vs. prime match up could go either way. I like Louis early, and Marciano late. I would favor Louis slightly.
     
  3. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i can't believe that anybody thinks rocky would beat joe louis.sure joe had trouble with godoy and tommy farr but rocky had trouble with middle aged men and small light light heavies.
     
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  4. 1_ joe louis is seriously overrated because he was a great icon in america, he was a great man, and the nostalgic people love him very much.
    2_he was good, but he did look better than he was really because he didn´t fight in the best era.
    schmelling: he did beat louis once, it did demonstrate that he wasn´t invincible in his prime. guys like quarry, lyle, patterson, eddie machen, chuvalo or terrel would beat schmeling without great problems.
    max baer: just an archaic puncher, not better than cleveland williams.
    carnera,abe simon,galento,budy baer.. pure garbage
    arturo godoy,billy conn,braddock? lol just lol
    he lost against charles and walcott was stolen in the first fight.
    louis had fast hands, good skill, he was an accurate puncher, he got great combinations,he was a hard puncher(really with combinations) , good stamina. poor chin, footwork =****, he was too static.
    even louis himself did admit that the pressure boxers were bad for him.
    in my mind joe louis in the 60s,70s would be knocked out by liston,foreman. joe frazier would tko him late. ali 64-67 would have schooled him, ali 74-75 would beat a prime louis.

    your ridiculous argument is " joe louis is the best because he is joe louis"


    really you are very boring i will not spend my time talking with a simpleton like you
     
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  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    If I can convince you one way or the other then there is something wrong.

    I do favour Louis however.

    I think that a lot of the troubles Louis had with Godoy were due to the fact that he was taking on a lightly regarded contender and didnt know quite what style of fighter he waqs up against.

    I also dont find Godoy a particularly good model for Marciano.

    It is certainly possible that some of the eccentric elements of Marciano's style throw Louis off his game enough for him to loose. It is also quite likley that Louis could underestimate Marciano.

    In either scenario, you better believe that Louis is going to have his revenge in the rematch!
     
  6. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i'm trying to find something that makes sense there......but can't.you are a balloon:lol:
     
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  7. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    did godoy ever get warned for ducking low ??
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I dont think so, but his tactics were unorthodox to say the least.
     
  9. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he seemed to have had his head just above the canvas he was ducking so low.he didn't want to quit though did he ??
     
  10. fast and easy response of an idiot without argument.
    your answers are the most stupid on this forum, you say to the people " you don´t know on boxing" but the facts are you never says proofs on the topic you are defending , you are talking nonsense without sense. like i said once on this forum .
    "you know absolutely **** about boxing"
    and i hold the same opinion
     
  11. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i boxed and followed boxing before you were born sonny.well before boxrec and google, where you get your knowledge from ????
    go away
     
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  12. still waiting the proofs on your knowledge...
    i am an amateur boxer, and i argue my opinions, even in english, your argument is " you know nothing and i know very much " but the facts are you have nothing to say. and probably you never trained boxing in your life
    :deal
     
  13. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i boxed for 5 years as an amateur at light-welter and welter and had 37 contests. then i trained kids for a while.i've got about 30 boxing books, ring magazines and boxing news'
    i seriously doubt that you've ever boxed or you wouldn't call boxers .......bums
     
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  14. you are right for first time :rofl
     
  15. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    your comma is in the wrong place !!
    7/10 much better than your other one.now, drink your milk and go to bed:lol: