Margarito - Plaster=No POWER

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  1. BXERT

    BXERT New Member Full Member

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    Come on let's be real...He hit Pac with the same uppercuts he did to cotto, cintron, etc.. and he didn't even moved. :nono
     
  2. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Noob, did you even watch the fight? Pacman had what Cotto didn't have and that's a defense. The few shots that did get in Pacman handled well except for the massive bodyshot and uppercut. Even Pacman admitted, what most fighters will never do, that the body shot hurt him pretty bad. Now Margo is no Mosley, but for Pacman to take solid shots from Cotto and Margo that's not a small feat.
     
  3. D50

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    I did notice that Cotto gave Pac a worse beating than Margo did, and Margo completely ****ed Cotto up. I'd say the performance tonight makes it look very plausible that Margo used plaster in the Cotto fight, though that's a statement that isn't scientific in any way. It just makes a shitload of sense at first glance, and that's good enough for me.
     
  4. BXERT

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    jajaja... more excuses??? what is his record without plaster??? 1 win - 2 loses in last 3 fights...:think
     
  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    So, he just happened to get away with using plaster when he knocked out young, undefeated Sergio Martinez, just happened to get away with it when he knocked out young undefeated Cintron, just happened to get away with it when he knocked out the same Cintron again in a big even fight, just happened to get away with it in his close loss against another big name in Paul Williams, just happened to get away with it yet again with undefeated Cotto when he knocked him out in a HUGE event fight. Okay, sounds plausible that that many camps, and inspectors in that many places just never caught him and his entire career's been a scam. It's possible, I suppose...Not very ****ing likely though. No one can prove a negative here anyway, so there's no point in going over it. You think what you think. That's commissions in Texas, Nevada, California, New York, New Jersey, Puerto Rico, Tennessee, etc and nobody ever caught this guy before Shane even though he was wrapping for every name he ever fought or some such notion. Geeeet the **** outta here.
     
  6. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    While it is hard to imagine Margarito using plaster for an extended period of time without getting caught, it's not so hard to consider his most previous bouts being tainted with the use of plaster when acknowledging the fact that without Nazim's vigilance, the pad would have gone unexamined. Because the knucklepad was a concealed insert, it took his physical touching of the pad to feel the hardness after catching an odd appearance and bringing it to the attention of the commission official, who on his own had noted nothing particularly suspicious.

    The last time a fighter was spotted with loaded gloves was also under Nazim's watch. Margarito said in 24/7 that from the beginning Nazim was being very tedious in his demands of the style of wrapping. This all suggests that the extent to which officials oversee the legality of wrappings may vary enough to allow Margarito to use plaster-like substances or hardened inserts in his wraps/gloves.
     
  7. BXERT

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    Ok.. Explain me how Margarito said that he "DID NOT know" that his trainer was putting the inserts in his handwraps.. If the person getting his handwraps "didn't noticed" how the inspector would?? possible?? EXPLAIN PLEASE!!
     
  8. turk182

    turk182 not newbie Full Member

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    margo seemingly has some pop since he was punching a guy 17 lbs less his size. but this much smaller guy still took his punches and dished out much more hurt than him.

    put him with somebody near his size like a mosley or cotto and he will need those "things" to hurt them.
     
  9. Kojiro

    Kojiro Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah Cotto hit him more often but in terms of power it was evident Marg was more heavy handed. Every time he hit Pac to the body Pac was uncomfortable with it and was really hurt a few times, this never happened against Cotto. Now, I'm not saying Marg wasn't using plaster earlier but he clearly proved last night he has very good power.
     
  10. turk182

    turk182 not newbie Full Member

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    margo had "very good power" vs. a guy 17 lbs smaller than him. :lol:

    in contrast, cotto was "only" 9 lbs bigger than pac during their fight.

    you do the math or in this case, physics here.
     
  11. Kojiro

    Kojiro Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cotto's chin is also much worse than Pac's and he got hit waaaaay more.

    All I'm saying is it was the best version of Margarito and without knowing about the plaster you couldn't say something was wrong with his power against Pac. If anything he seemed to lack power against Mosley, not against Pac.
     
  12. turk182

    turk182 not newbie Full Member

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    c'mon, man... margo didn't lack power against pac since margo was 17 lbs bigger than pac. margo's apparent "power" in the pac fight was all down to his very big size advantage.

    but when faced with someone his own size like mosley, margo clearly lacked power. and he apparently had to use those plasters to hurt cotto who is also near his size.
     
  13. Kojiro

    Kojiro Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It wasn't just about the size advantage, Cotto was also much bigger than Pac and couldn't hurt him nearly as bad. Pac is a freak, sure he was smaller but even guys much bigger than him would have been hurt by the shots Margarito landed last night.

    Anyway, I'm not trying to defend Margarito or say the plaster didn't help him, no way! I still think he's a scumbag but there's no denying he gave Pac the toughest fight in recent memory and was the only one to hurt him (which DLH, Cotto and Clottey couldn't do).
     
  14. BXERT

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    Agree!!! Also what I noticed is that before he got caught with the plaster he used to smile everytime he got hit, continued forward and run you over... after he got caught with plaster I haven't seen that smile/confidence on him... Why???
     
  15. PeteDawg

    PeteDawg Observant Observer Full Member

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    :thumbsup


    You know who took notice Mayweather in Vegas... "He was thinking how the hell am I going to beat a guy like that, thank God I'm here and not there."

    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl